Winstonm Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 [hv=d=n&v=n&n=skj3h4daj104ckq832&s=saq842h87dq832caj]133|200|Scoring: IMPThe Auction: N E S W1♣ 1♥ 1♠ P3♠ P 4♣ P4♠ P P P Thin but another excellent slam - who should have done more? How would you bid this hand?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 I am certain that I would not have reached this slam. It is often difficult to identify a useful J. here there are two of them. 1♣ (1♥) 1♠2♠ 4♠ looks likely to me. At this point, North might suspect that there is more, but who knows?! Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 If you really want to bid this slam then splinter with 3H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Disagree, this is NOT a good slam! A ♥ start and you get into trouble whenever trumps are 4-1 or ♦K is offside. This slam has less than 50% chance, so it's not a good slam. But I would bid 3♥ instead of 3♠... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 [hv=d=n&v=n&n=skj3h4daj104ckq832&s=saq842h87dq832caj]133|200|Scoring: IMPThe Auction: N E S W1♣ 1♥ 1♠ P3♠ P 4♣ P4♠ P P P Thin but another excellent slam - who should have done more? How would you bid this hand?[/hv]my bidding 1d (1h) x* (p)2c (p) 2s** (p)3s (p) 4nt (p)5h (p) 6d *=normal neg x OR game force**=game force it doesn't look like a great slam, but if diamond finesse is on everything ends ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMetsch Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 After the 4♣ bid by south (which must be the ace) the north hand becomes very good. North can almost count 5♣, a heart ruff or two, 1 or 2 ♦, 4 or 5♠, so about 11 or 12 tricks and only 1 direct loser. Bidding 4♦ or 4♥ will not help if south does not have a control in the other red suit. If anybody should bid more I think it is north. Instead of bidding 4♠ he could have tried 4NT and then 6♠ is clear. South can hardly go on after 4♠ without controls in both ♦ and ♥. By the way it takes a high ♥ lead by west and a ♦ swith to have chances to defeat this slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 ... 6♦ it doesn't look like a great slam, but if diamond finesse is on everything ends ok If ♦'s are 4-1 you're always down (unless stiff K). Then I still prefer 6♠... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 that's true, but i don't know the clubs will run and maybe i can toss a couple of them on spades (if everything behaves).. and it's imps anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Disagree, this is NOT a good slam! A ♥ start and you get into trouble whenever trumps are 4-1 or ♦K is offside. This slam has less than 50% chance, so it's not a good slam. But I would bid 3♥ instead of 3♠...Agree with your assessment other than a 4-1 trump split doesn't do much if the diamond K is onside. Overall, this is probably around a 40% slam - so let's change the hand 1 tick and substitute the diamond King instead of the Q. Now, once the club A is accounted for with the cue bid, doesn't North have to find a more aggressive call than 4S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 I think North should cue the A♦. Even then, with 6 losers (opposite a presumed 6 loser hand) and the real nice ♣AJ, South should take another call with 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 3♠ is not forcing right? then north has no rights to deny a cuebid after it, denying 2 its just nuts :o. 3♥ would had shown 4 trumps, so I don't think it is the right option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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