sceptic Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 [hv=d=w&v=n&n=skt96hkt7dk96cj97&w=sq53haq96dt743ca6&e=sa72hj8432d52c852&s=sj84h5daqj8ckqt43]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South Pass Pass Pass 1♦ Pass 1♠ Pass 2♣ Pass 2NT Pass 3♠ Pass Pass Pass Hi can you tell me what you think of 1!D opening and what you think of my decision not to bid 2 spades , but I chose to bis 2 clubs and what you thought of my 3 spade bid please and anything you think is rellevant thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_c Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 1♦ is fine. Personally I'd have opened it 1♣. I think it's become more or less standard nowadays to raise to 2♠ on this hand rather than rebidding in clubs. Bidding 2♣ and then supporting spades would show a stronger hand. That means, your 3♠ bid here should have been forcing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Open 1D and raise 1S to 2S, wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I think it's become more or less standard nowadays to raise to 2♠ on this hand rather than rebidding in clubs. You don't visit these forums enough :) 1♦+2♣ is ok, 1♣+2♣ is ok since the suit is good, for beginners I would recomend just stick to 1♣+2♣ even if the ♣ is bad. It saves more headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I like 1♦. I would have opened 1♦. About the 2♣: I would've raised to 2♠ IF and only if partner would possibly expect a raise on 3 cards. Otherwise, 2♣. I'm not in love with the 2NT bid. 2♦ is enough in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I'd bid 1m-1♠-2♠. Whatever minor you open, I can agree with since they're both good and ♣s are rebiddable. However, after a 1♠ bid from partner, 2♠ is imo much better than showing your minor suit holding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgtusi Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Opening 1♦ instead of the normal 1♣ wasn't made on the purpose to rebid 2♣ ? So 2♣ seems a coherent rebid But, what is the problem with 1♣ opening and 2♣ rebid over 1M response ? I will add that I completely disagree with North 2NT ! The game is very unlikely and NS are white, so be happy with a partial contract I would bid 2♦ over 2♣, my partner described a 54+ minor But what is wrong about that good (old fashioned perhaps) sequence : 1♣-1♠-2♣-PASS follow by 3♣ over the likely balancing in ♥? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted August 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I opened 1 diamond with the intent purpose of bidding 2!C as a planned rebid, I did not like 1nt as a rebid as I am not balanced (Correct me if I am wrong here) diamond first then 2C has to be more informative, than club and 2 club rebid, or will this lead me to problems (as I may have lied about length in suit I do have an agreement to support with 3, with my p for a 2 spade bid, but it needs to be a good 3 (so that sort of ruled that out) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 When supporting with three cards, the important thing (though not obligatory, according to agreements) is to have a shortage somewhere, so that ruffs can be taken in your hand. Trump quality is also nice, but less so. Personally I don't like the style of opening 1♦ on this sort of hands. It makes it harder for partner to judge where the hand will best play. Do those who play it drop false preference on the auction 1D - 1M - 2C - ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I am a strong believer in opening my longer suit, so 1♣ is clear to me. Automatic 2♠ raise on my next turn. Excellent spot. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Oh dear, I agree completely with Roland again.... As a side point, your 3S bid should be forcing. But accordingly it shows a better hand - something too good to raise 1S to 2, say AJxxAKxxxKQ10x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Oh dear, I agree completely with Roland again.... Maybe third time lucky if you read on :) Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandal Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I opened 1 diamond with the intent purpose of bidding 2!C as a planned rebid, I did not like 1nt as a rebid as I am not balanced (Correct me if I am wrong here) diamond first then 2C has to be more informative, than club and 2 club rebid, or will this lead me to problems (as I may have lied about length in suit I do have an agreement to support with 3, with my p for a 2 spade bid, but it needs to be a good 3 (so that sort of ruled that out) I would open 1C and plan to rebid 2C. Reason is I expect partner to either respond1D with D suit,or 1M then bid D over my 2Cwith 5M-4D holding. Guess it's a matter of style and agreements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I've just been thinking of something. Opening 1♣ is probably best on this hand. You always have a decent rebid: 1♣ - 1♦2♦ 1♣ - 1♥1♠ on a 3 card 1♣ - 1♠2♠ 1♣ - 1NT2♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Hi, I dont like 1D, and I would also not have raised 1S to 2S, but I can understand, why this is an valid option. But if you open 1D, then raise to 2S, because, you will most likely bid 2S in the 3rd round anyway, orwhat is your plan, when partner shows preference for diamonds? With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Open 1C with following plan. 1) Raise 1D to 2D2) Rebid 1NT over 1H3) Raise 1S to 2S4) Rebid 2C or pass over 1NT (your choice). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I don't like North's final pass. 3♠ is forcing, I think. Presumably she (he?) regretted the somewhat aggressive 2NT bid. 1♦ is ok. I prefer to open 1♣ with this shape unless the clubs are very bad and I can't rebid an off-shape 1NT due to partnership agreements. This is something to discuss with p, of course. As others have said, you should raise spades immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandal Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 1♦ is ok. I prefer to open 1♣ with this shape unless the clubs are very bad and I can't rebid an off-shape 1NT due to partnership agreements. This is something to discuss with p, of course. As others have said, you should raise spades immediately. I have to disagree with you,I don't think1D is ok on this hand. You start off the communication with partnermisinforming him about your hand,remember it's not all about rebid,it's alsoa partner and a final contract to consider. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I prefer 1♣ to 1♦ but I'm perfectly ok with 1♦ just a matter of style.2♣ is fine to me I would hate raising with Jxx3♠ is too much,I don't like the bid, I think 2♠ was more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandal Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I prefer 1♣ to 1♦ but I'm perfectly ok with 1♦ just a matter of style.2♣ is fine to me I would hate raising with Jxx3♠ is too much,I don't like the bid, I think 2♠ was more than enough. I mentioned somewhere I also think it's a matterof style,but since I would open 1D with 4-4 minor on this strength,I guess I "have" to open 1C with4-5 to make a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I prefer 1♣ to 1♦ but I'm perfectly ok with 1♦ just a matter of style.2♣ is fine to me I would hate raising with Jxx3♠ is too much,I don't like the bid, I think 2♠ was more than enough. I mentioned somewhere I also think it's a matterof style,but since I would open 1D with 4-4 minor on this strength,I guess I "have" to open 1C with4-5 to make a difference? The trend I'm seeing among experts is to open 1♣ with 4-4 in the minors or 4-5 as well. As I said it's a matter of style and I see a trend in style that says that opening 1♣ with 4 clubs or 5♣ when you have 4 diamonds is fashionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 i'd also open 1d with that hand, because a 2c rebid would show 6 for me... after 1d i can rebid 2c over anything (even 1s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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