Fluffy Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 [hv=d=w&v=b&s=sk5hdaqj32ckj10862]133|100|Scoring: IMP W - N - E - S1♣*-ps-1♦*-X*1♥-2♦-2♥-?[/hv] 1♣=12-16 unbalanced.1♦=0-7 or 12+.X*= same as a 1♦ overcall.2♥=nat, 0-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 4♣ to be followed by 4♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Geez... what headache and it's been only 3 problems. Are you sure you're ok, Gonzalo? After 200 hands like this it's hard to believe you're still in one piece.. lol ;) Anyway, I'm bidding 3C now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 5clubs. I changed my vote to 5clubs so I can bid 5clubs on all 3 hands and not confuse partner ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Gack... I think that you positioned yourself poorly by starting with a double rather than showing shape ASAP. With this said and done, the question for the peanut gallery is whats the best way to recover... From my perspective, there are two "reasonable" strategies with the hand. The first is some kind of fit showing action. While I don't know your agreements, I suspect that 3♣ would show a strong single suited hand, leaving 4♣ as the fit jump. Alternatively, it also seems reasonable to consider some form of Heart splinter. (I wouldn't be surprised to see someone launch immediately into exclusion blackwood) At the end of the day, I'm not sure if there is a "best" call... The 4♥ splinter tells partner to devalue the AK of Hearts, however, it doesn't really focus attention on the Queen of Clubs. The 4♣ fit jump lets partner know that Club honors are golden, but makes it more difficult to evaluation Heart controls. Personally, I lean towards the 4♣ bid simply because its cheaper. In an ideal world, I'll still be able to apply ERKCB if partner moves forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Double showed an overcall in diamonds. Thus, a high level club bid here seems appropriate. I would bid 5♣ now and let partner decide. Yes, if I think I now have the auction to myself, 4♣ and then 4♥ seems a better way to explore for slam. But, I expect LHO isn't finished in this auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 why did the partnership choose not to bid the 6-card suit first, or 2NT for minors? Let the limited unbalanced hand start to describe his opener at the 3-level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 This is a great hand. I will make a game try. 4C looks good. If pd has club support, he will make an intelligent decision. If pd bid 4D, i think i will pass. Perhaps just bid 5D is as good as 4C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 4♣ for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 With the agreement, 4H Kickback RKCB for Diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 With the agreement, 4H Kickback RKCB for Diamonds. With a void in hearts? Is this a commonly accepted, understood, and used bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 With the agreement, 4H Kickback RKCB for Diamonds. With a void in hearts? Is this a commonly accepted, understood, and used bid? If you play kickback then yes 4h is ace ask...4h at anytime in bidding.Note this version of kickback =next suit higher over agreed trump suit.Does this mean you lose 4h as a splinter or cuebid, Yes. ON this hand I do not care since I am bidding 5clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 With the agreement, 4H Kickback RKCB for Diamonds. With a void in hearts? Is this a commonly accepted, understood, and used bid? If you play kickback then yes 4h is ace ask...4h at anytime in bidding.Note this version of kickback =next suit higher over agreed trump suit.Does this mean you lose 4h as a splinter or cuebid, Yes. ON this hand I do not care since I am bidding 5clubs Commonly used, I think not. Uncommonly useful, indeed. Once pard has agreed trumps (in this case you showed some diamonds and he bid them freely) the 4H bid guarantees no 2 quick losers in any suit. You also can stop in 5D whether you are using 1430 or 0314. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 [hv=n=sa1098hq1043d1076cq4&w=sj3hak872dk9ca953&e=sq7642hj965d854c7&s=sk5hdaqj32ckj10862]399|300|[/hv] I bid 4♥ and my partner bid 5♦ wich was doubled by West, who I think was rather lucky to find his partner with singleton ♣, my partner didn't play very safely and finished with -500. 5♣ can be won by south's hand, but to play in clubs you have to bid the suit twice, or probably 3 times. I think the double of 1♦ had already doomed us <_<. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown ♠ A1098 ♥ Q1043 ♦ 1076 ♣ Q4 ♠ J3 ♥ AK872 ♦ K9 ♣ A953 ♠ Q7642 ♥ J965 ♦ 854 ♣ 7 ♠ K5 ♥ [space] ♦ AQJ32 ♣ KJ10862 I bid 4♥ and my partner bid 5♦ wich was doubled by West, who I think was rather lucky to find his partner with singleton ♣, my partner didn't play very safely and finished with -500. 5♣ can be won by south's hand, but to play in clubs you have to bid the suit twice, or probably 3 times. I think the double of 1♦ had already doomed us <_<. Tough hand, we could have bid clubs over RHO bid of negative 1d or bid 4nt to show both minors. I assume one club did not promise clubs?Pard could have bid 1nt over LHO rebid of 1H. Great post mortem hand to discuss in the bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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