DJNeill Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hi all,The ACBL in Memphis has a recording system but it is not very useful for keeping track of undisclosed agreements, psyches, etc in practice because the whole reporting process is too much work to be worth it. On BBO, however, there could be a database-stored listing of reports, that might be queried by directors during a tournament, or at the very least later on when a report is submitted by email. It's much better than having every single director keeping a personal log unlinked to anyone else's. And I suspect many directors just have notes on people's profile, which makes importing them to a central DB pretty impossible. Is this viable, or is there any need/usefulness for it? Thanks,burned for the umpteenth time in ACBL tournaments by undisclosed agreements,Dan ('djneill') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBruce Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 I don't understand. What exactly is the problem you are trying to solve? Give us some examples of these 'undisclosed agreements.' Is there an epidemic of people playing conventions without alerting or explaining and then claiming it was a coincidence? As a TD, my impression is that the only online epidemic is players assuming cheating of some sort by opponents who win by playing well. Few TDs are going to take the time to consult a database during a tournament. It would be better if online TDs could see the chat, including the private chat, that has taken place since the start of the round, upon arriving. But that would risk seeing some private non-bridge chat that might take place between two friends. And I think we get things right fairly often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 the easiest thing would be if there was a way to report the hand and fill out an inquiry form just like you do in an ACBL event. Then it would be up to who ever is handling the tourney to do with it what they want. When I handled Recorder forms I just filed them and then started putting them into a data base with hand records and such. There could be a forum here that people could fill them out and post the hands and the players but only to fill them out, it should still be confidential and only be allowed to be viewed by TD's or authorized personal...then what they do with the information is their choice. Banning suspending warning etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candybar Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Is there an epidemic of people playing conventions without alerting or explaining and then claiming it was a coincidence? In a word, Yes. As a TD, my impression is that the only online epidemic is players assuming cheating of some sort by opponents who win by playing well.Well, since cheaters win by playing well, your point is irrelevant. The problem is to distinguish between those who win by playing well honestly (which is what I assume you really meant) and those who win by playing well due to cheating. For example of the latter, I refer you to the thread on B&L. However, my own preference would be for a TD recorder system to document the less than sterling TDs and occasional bad directing decisions on BBO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Is there an epidemic of people playing conventions without alerting or explaining and then claiming it was a coincidence? No.The only epidemic I see is players leaving tournaments, usually after a bad board or two. Perhaps the the #tournaments played/tournaments abandoned ratio needs to be reduced so more of these players get a tournament suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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