Jump to 4c in Wei Precision

[helene_t]

Yesterday we won the prestigous "Teams Disneyland", the most important event I've ever won I think. (Mice vs Ducks, I don't remember which team I represented, though). We agreed to play classic Precision. East is a reasonably good player (no gold-star), West is me.

 

1♣ 1NT

2♣ 2♠

4♣

 

What does 4♣ mean?

[bearmum]

Yesterday we won the prestigous "Teams Disneyland", the most important event I've ever won I think. We agreed to play classic Precision. East is a reasonably good player (no gold-star), West is me.

 

1♣ 1NT

2♣ 2♠

4♣

 

What does 4♣ mean?

 

First -- Congratulations on your wonderful win :ph34r:

Unfortunately I have LOST my CC Wei Precision book ( written goodness HOW many years ago) but I think 4♣ here is a splinter agreeing spades :ph34r:

[Limey_p]

I assume the sequence has these meanings:

 

1♣ - strong and artificial

1NT - natural, something like 8-12 HCP

2♣ - something like stayman

2♠ - natural, 4 card suit

 

This sounds so much like an ordinary 1N sequence that I'd like the 4♣ bid to have the same meaning as after we've opened 1NT. And I'd want to play it as a splinter in support of spades - I'm no great believer in ace asking.

 

Andy

[han]

Same answer as Limey for me, that 4C should be whatever you play 1NT-2C-2S-4C as. In my case that means RKC in spades, as I like to put all the splinters into 3H.

[Double !]

To the best of my knowledge, this was never really clarified in wei's original book.

2C definitely stayman.

Opener could have rebid 3C/1NT to show strong club suit hand.

Forget that opener opened 1C.

Supposed the bidding went 1NT-2C-2S-4C? what would that mean to you. My guess is that's what it means in the sequence that you just gave.

and I haven't been able to find my wei book in decades (or is that decadence?).

Just checked out my Goren and my Reese Precision books: neither address the sequence you mention.

My guess is that it is Gerber, (or beachnut) ye olde ace-asking bid.

[csdenmark]

Yesterday we won the prestigous "Teams Disneyland", the most important event I've ever won I think. (Mice vs Ducks, I don't remember which team I represented, though). We agreed to play classic Precision. East is a reasonably good player (no gold-star), West is me.

 

1♣ 1NT

2♣ 2♠

4♣

 

What does 4♣ mean?

In Belladonna/Garozzo it means CAB(Control asking Bid). In this case 1st step will be 3 controls.

 

All jumps to 4♣ are CAB unless if clubs has been bidden naturally. Then CAB is substituted by 4♦. If good values have been shown response scale starts by 3 else by 1.