thorvald Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 [hv=pc=n&n=sqj64hq3dj83cqj86&e=s752haj2dat62ct53&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=pp1np2cp2hp2sp3hp3nppp]266|200[/hv] Against 3N partner started with ♦5, and dummy played low. I know the robots don't follow the rule of 3rd hand high, but here I was not able to find a situation, where playing the 6 could be right But playing the 6 wasn't right with this layout [hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7CHuman%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C3SK8HK9854DK94CAK7%2CSAT93HT76DQ75C942%2CSQJ64HQ3DJ83CQJ86%2CS752HAJ2DAT62CT53%7Csv%7CN%7Cah%7CBoard%205%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7Cnotrump%20opener.%20Could%20have%205M.%20--%202-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-5%20%21H%3B%202-5%20%21S%3B%2015-17%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7CStayman%20--%2011-%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7C2-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%204-5%20%21H%3B%202-4%20%21S%3B%2015-17%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2S%7Can%7C3-%20%21H%3B%204%20%21S%3B%209%20HCP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3H%7Can%7C2-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%205-%20%21H%3B%202-4%20%21S%3B%2015-17%20HCP%3B%20rebiddable%20%21H%3B%2018-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3N%7Can%7C3-%20%21H%3B%204%20%21S%3B%209%20HCP%3B%2010%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cmc%7C9%7C]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 If you held KQ4 it doesn't cost, but thats still no reason to risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 but here I was not able to find a situation, where playing the 6 could be rightIt's not about finding situations where playing 6 was right, it's about how many situations playing 6 wasn't wrong. By my calculations: - a 10 deal simulation will tell GIB to play low 9.2% of the time- a 20 deal simulation will tell GIB to play low 2.5% of the time- a 30 deal simulation will tell GIB to play low 0.7% of the time- a 40 deal simulation will tell GIB to play low 0.2% of the time We don't know how exactly how many deals BBO has configured GIB to simulate, but according to barmar it is "a few dozen" for advanced robots, so playing low will be rare but still within the realms of possibility, even if there weren't any bugs in the intended algorithm. (And of course, with basic bots it would be considerably less rare). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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