mga010 Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 I am in search for a nice replay software. It should be able to read the standard bridge formats and display the hands with proper cards in a nice way, like BBO does. I want to be able to bid and play the hand myself. But it should also be able to show the stored bidding and card play. Double Dummy Solver would be nice too. This looks like an easy task. But I was unable to find such a software. E.g., you can load a LIN file into BBO, but not play it through yourself. I think you can set a hand source. But that is all way too complicated. Why not just simply load a hand into BBO? There is an advanced option using a Dealer format, but the links are all dead and I do not know if you can specify a hand. Does anybody know such a software, able to run on Windows or Java? Otherwise, I am going to write it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 Bridgesolver by John Goacher does most of what you require and very well too. You can use it as an add on to Chrome, which is more flexible than a Windows based solution (you can analyse and replay a hand shown in a BBO forum page, for instance). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foobar Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 I am in search for a nice replay software. It should be able to read the standard bridge formats and display the hands with proper cards in a nice way, like BBO does. I want to be able to bid and play the hand myself. But it should also be able to show the stored bidding and card play. Double Dummy Solver would be nice too. This looks like an easy task. But I was unable to find such a software. E.g., you can load a LIN file into BBO, but not play it through yourself. I think you can set a hand source. But that is all way too complicated. Why not just simply load a hand into BBO? There is an advanced option using a Dealer format, but the links are all dead and I do not know if you can specify a hand. Does anybody know such a software, able to run on Windows or Java? Otherwise, I am going to write it myself.Look no further than the excellent DDS: https://www.bridgecaptain.com/downloadDD.html. It works on Windows (and on Linux with WINE). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mga010 Posted May 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 Bridgesolver by John Goacher does most of what you require and very well too. You can use it as an add on to Chrome, which is more flexible than a Windows based solution (you can analyse and replay a hand shown in a BBO forum page, for instance). Yes, I have that installed. It is very good. I was not aware that it can load bridge files. I only started it to analyze games from various pages. But it cannot used to show a bidding, and it does not display cards, as far as I know. However, it looks like the best solution I could find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mga010 Posted May 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 Look no further than the excellent DDS: https://www.bridgecaptain.com/downloadDD.html. It works on Windows (and on Linux with WINE). I have been on this page and even installed Lead Captain 4.10. But it failed to load games stored by Bridge Solver e.g. There seems to be a compatibility problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 Yes, I have that installed. It is very good. I was not aware that it can load bridge files. I only started it to analyze games from various pages. But it cannot used to show a bidding, and it does not display cards, as far as I know. However, it looks like the best solution I could find.It can load/save files in PBN and LIN formats (and is aware of BBO non-standard LIN). No bidding. If by 'display cards' you mean a picture of cards in line, then no, but I can't see why one would prefer that to a hand diagram when analysing a board.My only gripes are that the extension is sometimes difficult to open in the current instance of Chrome (seemed fixed but is back again) and that it sometimes auto-saves any modifications I have made to the input file (I was not able to convince the author this was a bug). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mga010 Posted May 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2023 So far, I have not found a solution. RealBridge would be nice, but you cannot use it just as a player for free teaching. BBO teaching tables cannot load games, unfortunately. And replaying by sitting down around the table is impossible. I downloaded and installed all sorts of programs too. The best solution (without the option to bid) is the online DDS. Started to write a program myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mga010 Posted June 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 Current ProgressThe main program can now load and save PBN hand, generate random hands, bid and play, call the double dummy solver in the net. Much more to do still. Unfortunately, I was unable to post a screenshot here (extension not allowed). If anybody likes to try, you can download the jar-file from my Google drive: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1D6vaOB17oQ-8RAuaq-TB5X3I3_-IF9ml&usp=drive_fs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 Would http://bcalc.w8.pl/ by Piotr Beling work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 Current ProgressThe main program can now load and save PBN hand, generate random hands, bid and play, call the double dummy solver in the net. Much more to do still. Now all you need to add is logoff/logon and a primitive robot and you have BBO :) Isn't it possible and more practical to build in the DD solver? I thought Bo Haglund's code was freely available, it's not rocket science to DIY anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mga010 Posted June 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 There are numerous versions of the code of the double dummy solver available. But my main goal was to replay and study hands, also for teaching, not using DDS, of course. I could not find code for that, nor a finished program that I would like. The BBO code or anything similar to that for playing and bidding is not available. Even if there was such a code, it is often much easier to write it yourself in a language you are familiar with. Plain vanilla Java is quite mighty and fast on C level with lots of internet resources. And it simply fun to do it your way. I was indeed dreaming of writing a robot to play against later. It would be a nice challenge. With a quick double dummy solver and some random analysis, it should not be too difficult to program an opponent who does not play double dummy. BBO did it that way. Extracting information from the bidding or the lead is the main difficulty here. For me, that is a slow and relaxed project after retirement. Seeing the little interest in my request, I see no reason to hurry the development. By the way, I think the main achievement of BBO is running a server. And making money with it, I should add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mga010 Posted June 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 Would http://bcalc.w8.pl/ by Piotr Beling work? Thanks for this hint. That is very close to my goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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