jillybean Posted May 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 If you do the normal thing and pass with the West cards, do you imagine that partner will just fold up the cards and put them back in the bidding box? [hv=pc=n&s=sq9hkqj965d654ca7&w=skj6ha73dkt97ct63&n=s87532ht42d2cq942&e=sat4h8daqj83ckj85&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1hp2h?]399|300[/hv] What is your call? Only seeing your card of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw64ahw Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 What is your call? Only seeing your card of course.Takeout X with 6/5.5 modified losers, but partner's failure to bid raises the possibility of playing in a Moysian. North is too weak to support directly for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 [Edit: "What do I do with the East hand after 1♥-2♥?"] Double. Much prefer it to 1NT on West's dreck. Yes, we bid 1NT for takeout on 4333s (and probably shouldn't), but they're very much on the top edge and with no wasted values. 11 including their Ace, and not 4 spades? No thanks. For why, swap the North and East hands. Just as likely. I guess the only thing I think is more dangerous is 1NT natural on that hand. Am I going to find diamonds? Probably, but maybe not after 3♥ by South (*). Am I going to find 6 diamonds? You know, guessing 3 cards - Did North raise on "ace and out", did South bid with KQJxxx and the club Ace alone, or do we have this hand? - isn't exactly a sinecure. I mean, you know somebody bid light, and you know South has KQJxxx... Do they play Precision and open most 10 counts NV? And whether you or I would raise on the North hand, with or without interference, there are people who do. They are more likely to raise in competition (either X or 1NT "double", or 1NT strong balanced, for that matter) than with a pass, but people do. And you have to be able to deal with it. Having said that, how do you do against 1♥-p-p? * But I could see 1♥-p-2♥-X; 3♥-p-p-X getting floated at MPs. Ace-and-out and we should hold them to 5 trumps and the club for 500. Not 920, but still an okay score. Even 300 should get us somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 Sure, 11-14 NT overcalls are legal. Go for it. But I am reminded of the call I took in Penticton some years ago. The opponents were not happy that they didn't Announce their weak NT overcall. The bidders said they were told they don't have to. A check of the (then, but still) regs and I came back with "Yes, it's legal, and no, you are not required to Announce the range of (natural) NT overcalls. However, if it doesn't promise 14, you have to Alert it." I happened to check their table on Sunday in the Swiss, and they were playing 15-18 NT overcalls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 Sure, 11-14 NT overcalls are legal. Go for it. But I am reminded of the call I took in Penticton some years ago. The opponents were not happy that they didn't Announce their weak NT overcall. The bidders said they were told they don't have to. A check of the (then, but still) regs and I came back with "Yes, it's legal, and no, you are not required to Announce the range of (natural) NT overcalls. However, if it doesn't promise 14, you have to Alert it." I happened to check their table on Sunday in the Swiss, and they were playing 15-18 NT overcalls... So I'm a bit behind the times. I'm sure it's just a faze, like gambling 3nt, and if it ever gets on the card I will drop it after a few disasters. Of course if we did play it I would alert a weak nt overcall, [sarcasm] everyone alerts when it is required don't they? I wouldn't want to gain any advantage by keeping it concealed [/sarcasm] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted May 18, 2023 Report Share Posted May 18, 2023 Pass but I am so late to the party I imagine there aren't any decent nibbles left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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