thepossum Posted May 6, 2023 Report Share Posted May 6, 2023 [hv=pc=n&s=saq852ht98dkq9ckj&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=2s(weak%206%20spades)pp]133|200[/hv] I went for an offshape double and waited in trepidation for it to be passed IMPs these days of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1201 Posted May 6, 2023 Report Share Posted May 6, 2023 and waited in trepidation for it to be passedYou know partner can’t / won’t pass this. Your chances are to pass and score a few under ticks, or balance with 2NT, more or less this strength at this position, but usually less S. Partner’s initial pass is quite revealing. You know their hand is short in S, and with 10-11 HCP, which you’ll need for 3NT, they might have tried a TOX with a 3-suited hand, probably converted by you, or bid a long suit should they have one. Actually, if you bid (2NT or worse, X), it is likely you (or partner) will end up in a bad contract. It looks like the declaring side on this deal will be in a lousy spot. And currently, opps are sitting right there. Don’t fancy taking their place. So I’d pass (ready to apologize if I turned down 7 IMPs or so). Sometimes, not bidding is more dangerous than bidding, but I don’t think it is the case here. Of course, if opps routinely open a 5-cd suit weak 2 and partner can have an average balanced hand, you’ll be favorite for 3NT and won’t get rich scoring NV under tricks when in the other room it went pass pass pass 1NT 3NT or some other sequence starting with 1S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL78 Posted May 6, 2023 Report Share Posted May 6, 2023 I'd pass and take the plus score. If LHO's bidding is to be believed the hand looks like a hideous misfit. Let the opponents play the misfit hands. You also have to ask yourself how strong partner must be to have a spade shortage but be unable to double or overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyams Posted May 6, 2023 Report Share Posted May 6, 2023 I'm bidding 2NT. The odds are low that I will get doubled and go for a huge minus. On occasion, I would have converted a small plus into a small minus. On the flip side, there is a reasonable chance that we have game (or a partial) in a suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted May 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2023 We ended in a Lebensohl 3H-1 for a small plus :) Remarkable luckOnly one table managed to trick the declarer into giving up a trick in SpadesI felt rather unsure and that anything could have happened after a doubleNote 2NT also goes -1 [hv=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=st||pn|thepossum,~~M52738,~~M52736,~~M52737|md|2SAQ852HT98DKQ9CKJ,SKJT976HQ4DA52C76,S43HJ765DJT83CA43,SHAK32D764CQT9852|sv|o|rh||ah|Board%208|mb|2S|an|Weak%20two%20bid%20--%201-4%20!C;%201-3%20!D;%201-3%20!H;%206+%20!S;%2010-%20HCP;%207+%20total%20points%20|mb|P|mb|P|mb|D|an|3+%20!C;%203+%20!D;%204+%20!H;%2012+%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|2N!|an|Lebensohl%20-%20Forces%203C%20by%20partner%20--%209-%20total%20points%20|mb|P|mb|3C|an|Transfer%20completed%20--%203+%20!C;%203+%20!D;%204+%20!H;%2012-18%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|3H|an|4+%20!H;%209-%20total%20points%20|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|CT|pc|CJ|pc|C6|pc|C3|pc|H8|pc|HQ|pc|H5|pc|H3|pc|H4|pc|H6|pc|HK|pc|HT|pc|HA|pc|H9|pc|S7|pc|H7|pc|C2|pc|CK|pc|C7|pc|C4|pc|DK|pc|D2|pc|D3|pc|D4|pc|DQ|pc|DA|pc|D8|pc|D6|pc|D5|pc|DT|pc|D7|pc|D9|pc|CA|pc|CQ|pc|S2|pc|S6|pc|HJ|pc|H2|pc|S5|pc|SJ|pc|DJ|pc|C5|pc|S8|pc|S9|pc|S3|pc|C8|pc|SA|pc|ST|pc|SQ|pc|SK|pc|S4|pc|C9|]400|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted May 7, 2023 Report Share Posted May 7, 2023 I suspect you were lucky to make a positive score... this is a pass for me at MPs, let alone IMPs. 2NT makes little sense (IMHO) with all spades but the Ace covered by LHO. Double is more than offshape, raising the eternal issue of how Laws should handle the presence of a robot incapable of noting repeated deviations or formulating implicit understandings (a first thought would be to prohibit deviation by companion). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 7, 2023 Report Share Posted May 7, 2023 Hi, I would have bid 2NT without giving it much though, but pass is certainly a strong ( most likely even better ) alternative.X is not an alternative, partner will never pass it, hence where do you wantto end up? With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 "On occasion, I would have converted a small plus into a small minus. On the flip side, there is a reasonable chance that we have game (or a partial) in a suit"Really Shyams? A pass is 100% clear cut. Your best suit is the opponent's suit. You cannot possibly hope to build tricks in this suit. As usual in these problems, the vulnerability is not given, but regardless a pass is clear.I suggest you post the hand as a bidding problem on Bridge Winners, where the standard of responses is far more learned than here and see what the result is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 As usual in these problems, the vulnerability is not given ...It's nil vulnerable, although it's not obvious in isolation. The compass direction in the auction is red if vulnerable, white otherwise. In the full hand diagram, you get the same colours around the number at the top left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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