AL78 Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 Swiss pairs playing Acol weak NT: ♠KQ92♥T♦KQ96♣A643 LHO passes, partner opens 1♣, RHO overcalls 2♣ (5-5 majors). You haven't discussed a defence to two suited overcalls. Your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 Without agreements, I will have to start with a double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 Length of the club ? Vul ? Your options (if you play what we play) are: X - ability to penalise at least one of opps suits2♥ good hand with clubs (2♠ would be a good hand with diamonds) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL78 Posted May 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 Length of the club ? Vul ? Your options (if you play what we play) are: X - ability to penalise at least one of opps suits2♥ good hand with clubs (2♠ would be a good hand with diamonds) Game all. 1♣ shows at least four. That defence is one that came to mind as I know an analogous one to the unusual 2NT but didn't fancy cue bidding one of their suits in absence of discussion. I decided to double as I have defence to one of their suits. The auction continues: [hv=pc=n&e=skq92htdkq96ca643&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=p1c2c(Michaels)d2hdp]133|200[/hv] Your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 2♠, must be 4, must be forcing. If partner bids 3♣ I will bid 3♦, looking for a ♥ stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 2♠, must be 4, must be forcing. If partner bids 3♣ I will bid 3♦, looking for a ♥ stopper. Why would you bid spades naturally when opp has shown 5 of them ? It is normal for this to be artificial, just a question of what it means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 Game all. 1♣ shows at least four. That defence is one that came to mind as I know an analogous one to the unusual 2NT but didn't fancy cue bidding one of their suits in absence of discussion. I decided to double as I have defence to one of their suits. The auction continues: [hv=pc=n&e=skq92htdkq96ca643&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=p1c2c(Michaels)d2hdp]133|200[/hv] Your call? If 1♣ is 4+ and particularly if you open most 4M4m hands with the major, 3♥ splinter was also in the frame. Partner could easily be 2425 and if they are, this could be a bloodbath on 2 rounds of clubs ruffed in the long hand, less so if partner has doubled on a good 3 card heart holding, you're on a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL78 Posted May 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 If 1♣ is 4+ and particularly if you open most 4M4m hands with the major, 3♥ splinter was also in the frame. Partner could easily be 2425 and if they are, this could be a bloodbath on 2 rounds of clubs ruffed in the long hand, less so if partner has doubled on a good 3 card heart holding, you're on a guess. You are very good at reading the situation. Partner was indeed 2425. I took her double as penalty so I passed, although I wondered if we could extract enough to compensate for the 3NT or 5♣ game we almost certainly had on. The full deal: [hv=pc=n&s=st8h543dat853cq72&w=sa7haj97d72ckjt95&n=sj6543hkq862dj4c8&e=skq92htdkq96ca643&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=p1c2c(Michaels)d2hdppp]399|300[/hv] We took +500 out of this although I think on perfect defence +800 is there (double dummy says eight tricks are available in hearts EW). This was worth less than the cold 3NT or 5♣ which a few pairs found and one lucky EW pair had the pleasure of +1100 for defending 4♥X. Everyone else was playing in a club partscore so that was 55% for us which after the start we had I was grateful for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 You are very good at reading the situation. Partner was indeed 2425. I took her double as penalty so I passed, although I wondered if we could extract enough to compensate for the 3NT or 5♣ game we almost certainly had on. The full deal: [hv=pc=n&s=st8h543dat853cq72&w=sa7haj97d72ckjt95&n=sj6543hkq862dj4c8&e=skq92htdkq96ca643&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=p1c2c(Michaels)d2hdppp]399|300[/hv] We took +500 out of this although I think on perfect defence +800 is there (double dummy says eight tricks are available in hearts EW). This was worth less than the cold 3NT or 5♣ which a few pairs found and one lucky EW pair had the pleasure of +1100 for defending 4♥X. Everyone else was playing in a club partscore so that was 55% for us which after the start we had I was grateful for. Almost all roads lead to 800 as long as you get the club force going early, declarer makes only 4 trumps and the diamond ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL78 Posted May 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 Almost all roads lead to 800 as long as you get the club force going early, declarer makes only 4 trumps and the diamond ace. We didn't get it going immediately. Partner led the spade ace and continued with another one. I can't remember what happened after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 Why would you bid spades naturally when opp has shown 5 of them ? It is normal for this to be artificial, just a question of what it means.Why would I bid spades naturally? I've seen enough "michaels" on 45 to know that we could have a spade fit, I would not have expected (2♥)X to be penalty, 2♠ is describing my hand, finding our place to play. ♠'s, ♣'s, nt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 Why would I bid spades naturally? I've seen enough "michaels" on 45 to know that we could have a spade fit, I would not have expected (2♥)X to be penalty, 2♠ is describing my hand, finding our place to play. ♠'s, ♣'s, nt? It's pretty normal for the first double to be "I can penalise one or both suits" I've played this for so long that x of 2♥ is just routinely penalties for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 It's pretty normal for the first double to be "I can penalise one or both suits" I've played this for so long that x of 2♥ is just routinely penalties for me.Wait, OP said no agreements over interference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 Wait, OP said no agreements over interference.Double as suggesting penalty is "just bridge", not a special partnership agreement. Unusual vs Unusual (I think called Invisible Cuebids on the other side of the pond) is a special agreement requiring discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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