microcap Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 I was playing with a star partner [in what galaxy I am not sure]. I opened 1♠ and he [and now you] held the following [hv=d=n&v=b&s=sjhakjxxdxcakjxxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] What is your first bid and how would you think about this auction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 2clubs followed by repeated h bids seems normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 2clubs followed by repeated h bids seems normal. agreewhat else? Bid 2H first? I don't think so.why can't I just bid my hands normally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 why can't I just bid my hands normally? Because you need to plan ahead. You have to think what to do if pard rebids spades, which seems very likely from our hand. If you're willing to rebid hearts at the 4 level, then go ahead and bid 2♣. If on the other hand you're not willing to do that, bid 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 2C seems normal to me... over 2S, 3H should show the 5/6 hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Yes, but... are you sure pard will take 3♥ as a 6-5 or just bidding shape with a mere 5-4? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Yes, but... are you sure pard will take 3♥ as a 6-5 or just bidding shape with a mere 5-4? :lol: Hi, 3H does not show 6-5, but if I bid 4H over 3S or 3 NT, then I show 6-5.The 3H bid just shows some values, angling for 3NT. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 why can't I just bid my hands normally? Because you need to plan ahead. Why 2C then 3H is not planning ahead? What if Pd bid 3D over 2H? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 I'm not saying 2♥ is better than 2♣. I'm merely pointing out hands should be bid with a plan in mind, not just following automatic rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 1) not following any rules, per se, with no foresight.2) regarding whether or not rebidding 3H over 2S shows 4 or 5: is opener rebidding 2H with 6-4, with some 6-4, or not at all? That influences how I respond with this hand.3) I have a lot of controls, not just hcp. I am probably willing to rebid hearts twice and then subside if partner has absolutely no fit. ...........and, who is to say that opener is necessarily rebidding 2S?4) I don't wish to get into debate about whether or not 2NT by opener shows extra values: my style is that it doesn't. But, I can easily rebid 3H/2NT to show 5-6. If you want to respond 2H initially because to respond 2 clubs creates problems when opener is 5332 with a minimum and rebids 2S as a default rebid, well, then this is an issue of rebid philosophy, not judgment/ planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microcap Posted July 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Mr. Star Player bid 2♥, then got a 3♦ rebid from me. Then he bid 4♣, followed by my 4!D. Now what would you bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 IMO, Mr Star player got what he/she asked for Gee, if P had responded 2C, he/she could rebid 2 & then 3HtsHow about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 I have a silly rule. With game forcing hands bid your longest suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Mr. Star Player bid 2♥, then got a 3♦ rebid from me. Then he bid 4♣, followed by my 4!D. Now what would you bid? UNDO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 If it follows 1♠ 2♥3♦ 4♣4♦ then I think I bid 4NT. To play. Things have gone very wrong. It would have sooo much been better not to try the clubs after 3♦. A 3NT was absolutely necessary at that stage. Strong hands with misfit are amongst the biggest overbidding traps out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microcap Posted July 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 THE DENOUEMENT Mr. Star Player bid 4♥! I had opened with [hv=s=skq10xxxhxdaj10xxxc]133|100|[/hv]. I passed naturally, figuring that ♥ would play better than anything else. BTW, the other room, with two star players bidding, went 1♠-2♣-2♦-2♥-3♦-3♥-3NT making 4. We went down as the hearts broke badly. Mr. Star Player berated me viciously for not bidding 4♠. It was as unpleasant an experience as I have had on BBO. For any star players who are reading this, you have an obligation to be leaders of the bridge community and to be extra sensitive ambassadors of the game. As it turns out, he quit the match later in a huff and it never got finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 It's not surprising people can't behave. It's a shame, yes, but that's life. And experts are no better than others. Anyway, this so-called expert scored in this board scored ZERO for hand evaluation. 4♣ is a wild bid on a dangerous situations, which got what it deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 I believe that BBO should remove the "star" from those who don't conduct themselves in a pleasant manner at all times - being a "star" at bridge does NOT mean that you have conquered life. I've known some pretty low-life "stars" who have played with doctors, nurses, attorneys, and the like, and I've never understood why they equate bridge skills with life skills. Maybe we should lobby for a "black star", meaning the person can play but is a jerk. Then all the black stars can play together and jerk themselves to death. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 4♣ and 4♦ are wrong bids, you both have to trtyto sing off in a playable contract: 3NT for him, 4♠ for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 I have a silly rule. With game forcing hands bid your longest suit. agreeapparently some feel that this is not a good rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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