thepossum Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 [hv=pc=n&s=sqjt43haq6dkq65c2&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=pp1sp1n(6-11%20pts%202-%20S)p2dp2s(2%20spades%206-9%20pts)p]133|200[/hv] What is the "expert" bid here Not going to make any spoilers but it was a disappointingly strange hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 Haha if I want to bid something then 3H , but pass is completely normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted March 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 Haha if I want to bid something then 3H , but pass is completely normal. Thx. I bid 3H which, as I will demonstrate later, rather sadly and strangely worked worse than other options :(I felt the hand was too good to pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 I would pass in a heartbeat. Game is not on and we are in the last safe contract at the 2-level. Partner is a favourite to hold 2 spades and long clubs, and then where do we want to go? 6-9 points opposite our 14 also doesn't motivate any risk-taking. We're weak, we have a misfit, get out now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBengtsson Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 It is an optical illusion that this hand will somehow be good for 3NT, if that is what you are thinking if partner has a max 1NT response bid. I go with the simple statistic that he is more likely not to have 11, and 3NT is not on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 The 2♠ rebid denies as many as 10 points. With 10-11 partner would rebid 2NT (or a long suit). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 Thx. I bid 3H which, as I will demonstrate later, rather sadly and strangely worked worse than other options :(I felt the hand was too good to pass What's your dream hand for partner ? can game be on ? Kx, KJxx, J10x, xxxx ? well you'd need spades 3-3 to avoid a force, and probably diamonds 3-3 too to avoid a ruff, I don't think game can be that good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted March 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 [Hv=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=st||pn|thepossum,~Mwest,~Mnorth,~Meast|md|3SQJT43HAQ6DKQ65C2,S962HJ84DA942CQJT,SK7HKT732DT3CK754,SA85H95DJ87CA9863|sv|n|rh||ah|Board%205|mb|P|mb|P|mb|1S|an|Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20!S;%2011-21%20HCP;%2012-22%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|1N|an|2-%20!S;%206-11%20HCP;%2012-%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|2D|an|New%20suit%20--%204+%20!D;%203-%20!H;%205+%20!S;%2011+%20HCP;%2012-18%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|2S|an|2%20!S;%206-9%20HCP|mb|P|mb|3H|an|4+%20!D;%203%20!H;%205+%20!S;%2017-18%20total%20points;%20partial%20stop%20in%20!H|mb|P|mb|4H|an|5+%20!H;%202%20!S;%207-9%20HCP;%208+%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|CQ|pc|CK|pc|CA|pc|C2|pc|C3|pc|H6|pc|CJ|pc|C4|pc|S3|pc|S2|pc|SK|pc|SA|pc|D8|pc|DK|pc|DA|pc|D3|pc|CT|pc|C5|pc|C6|pc|HQ|pc|HA|pc|H8|pc|H2|pc|H5|pc|SQ|pc|S9|pc|S7|pc|S5|pc|SJ|pc|S6|pc|HT|pc|S8|pc|HK|pc|H9|pc|S4|pc|H4|pc|DT|pc|D7|pc|DQ|pc|D2|pc|ST|pc|D4|pc|C7|pc|C8|pc|D5|pc|D9|pc|H3|pc|DJ|pc|H7|pc|C9|pc|D6|pc|HJ|]400|300[/HV] I thought this hand was worthy of note :( I still can't really work out the paradox. The way 8 hearts is worse than 7 spadesThat's why it's in this forum:) But passing was obviously the right bid I checked DD to console myself One person miraculously saw 4 spades and bid it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 [Hv=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=st||pn|thepossum,~Mwest,~Mnorth,~Meast|md|3SQJT43HAQ6DKQ65C2,S962HJ84DA942CQJT,SK7HKT732DT3CK754,SA85H95DJ87CA9863|sv|n|rh||ah|Board%205|mb|P|mb|P|mb|1S|an|Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20!S;%2011-21%20HCP;%2012-22%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|1N|an|2-%20!S;%206-11%20HCP;%2012-%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|2D|an|New%20suit%20--%204+%20!D;%203-%20!H;%205+%20!S;%2011+%20HCP;%2012-18%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|2S|an|2%20!S;%206-9%20HCP|mb|P|mb|3H|an|4+%20!D;%203%20!H;%205+%20!S;%2017-18%20total%20points;%20partial%20stop%20in%20!H|mb|P|mb|4H|an|5+%20!H;%202%20!S;%207-9%20HCP;%208+%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|CQ|pc|CK|pc|CA|pc|C2|pc|C3|pc|H6|pc|CJ|pc|C4|pc|S3|pc|S2|pc|SK|pc|SA|pc|D8|pc|DK|pc|DA|pc|D3|pc|CT|pc|C5|pc|C6|pc|HQ|pc|HA|pc|H8|pc|H2|pc|H5|pc|SQ|pc|S9|pc|S7|pc|S5|pc|SJ|pc|S6|pc|HT|pc|S8|pc|HK|pc|H9|pc|S4|pc|H4|pc|DT|pc|D7|pc|DQ|pc|D2|pc|ST|pc|D4|pc|C7|pc|C8|pc|D5|pc|D9|pc|H3|pc|DJ|pc|H7|pc|C9|pc|D6|pc|HJ|]400|300[/HV] I thought this hand was worthy of note :( I still can't really work out the paradox. The way 8 hearts is worse than 7 spadesThat's why it's in this forum:) But passing was obviously the right bid I checked DD to console myself One person miraculously saw 4 spades and bid it Well if you play hearts from the natural side I think you make it in that a diamond lead from Jxx is not attractive (in Acol there is no issue after a 1♠-2♥ start) the problem is that you can be forced to ruff clubs twice on the obvious Q♣ lead establishing a a trump for the defence, while the spades are 3-3 and there are only 3 clubs with the A♦ so you survive the force playing there if you guess which ace to force out correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 I still can't really work out the paradox. The way 8 hearts is worse than 7 spades Take a closer look at the clubs layout.Not that you should know during the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted March 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 Take a closer look at the clubs layout.Not that you should know during the auction. I did realise that was the problem - as my high trumps were disappearing from my short hand - and I noticed I may not make 10 tricks :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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