jillybean Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 [hv=pc=n&s=sa4hkqdaq5cakjt75&d=e&v=e&b=6&a=?]133|200[/hv] IMP Pairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 I'll upgrade to 24-25 balanced because of the good club suit, which I show with 2♣-2♦; 2♥-2♠; 2NT. I don't mind 1♣ in Dutch Doubleton but am worried about rebid issues, I don't love reversing into 2♦ with this.Other systems might play other continuations over a strong 2♣, which might have a sufficiently severe impact that a different opening bid is the percentage call. With Kokish I think this hand is fine.As an aside, I think it is better to show this hand as 24-25 than as 22-23. This is an above-average 23 count. This far in the tail of the HCP distribution partner will almost always assume the minimum within our range - it is simply far more common than the higher value (for reference: 22HCP balanced ~0.12%, 23HCP 0.08%, 24HCP 0.04%, 25HCP 0.01%). I feel more comfortable showing this as a 24-count than as a 'partner-will-assume-22'-count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 The diagram shows East in doubt, but I imagine the question is how to open South. I would settle for 2 clubs and then whatever sequence shows 2NT with 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 This is a huge hand. A flat hand with ♥A and ♦K is at least 12 tricks in clubs, ♥ AJ10xx and a doubleton club makes 6♥ with a finesse for 7 unless they lead a spade, ♦KJxxx and a doubleton club makes 6♦ most of the time, I can't make my mind up whether this is 25 or 26 balanced equivalent, K&R says 25. I don't have strong views whether this should be shown as balanced or clubs. Showing clubs at least means partner realises his xxxx is gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted March 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 [hv=pc=n&s=sa4hkqdaq5cakjt75&d=e&v=e&b=6&a=p2cp2h(noAK)p2n]133|200[/hv] (I'll post the full hand shortly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 I don't play the double negative over 2♣. It completely ruins Kokish, and often I don't really care about partner's ace or king anyway opposite my strong 2♣ hands. If partner insists on bidding something it would need to be a long suit - shape is much more important than strength or key cards. This bean counting has no place in the modern game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted March 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 [hv=pc=n&s=sa4hkqdaq5cakjt75&w=skq5haj2dk983c964&n=st83ht743djt42c83&e=sj9762h9865d76cq2&d=e&v=e&b=6&a=p]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 2♣-2♦; 2♥-2♠; 2NT-3♣; 3NT-P and best of luck partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted March 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 2♣-2♦; 2♥-2♠; 2NT-3♣; 3NT-P and best of luck partner.What is 3♣? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 Puppet Stayman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 Puppet Stayman. I would probably duplicate your auction but 3N would show 2 spades and 2-3 hearts. If I decided this was a 26 count rather than 25 there would be a less informative 2♣-2♦-3N and I might well get an unfortunate diamond lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 1♣(1)-1♦(2)2N(3)-3N(4)P (1) "10+, NATish unBAL OR 11-13/17-19/23+ BAL"(2) "0+, 4+ H"(3) "GF, either 5+C4+S or one-suited with 6+ C"(4) strong suggestion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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