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Bidding a higher 3-card suit before a 5-card suit


thorvald

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I wonder why GIB think it is right to bid 2 and not 2

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Its rules for this situation when it's weak and picking a suit, in order:

 

1: bid 2H if your longest suit is a 5 card minor, and your second longest suit is 4 hearts

2: bid 2x if x is your longest suit, and x isn't spades, and it's at least 5 cards long

3: bid 2x if x is your longest suit, and x isn't spades, and it's exactly 4 cards long

4: bid 2x if your longest suit is spades, and x is your second longest suit, and it's exactly 4 cards long

5: bid 2x for any x other than spades which is exactly 3 cards long

 

Pretty clear logical error in the database, missing the case when you have 5 spades and 5 of something else.

 

And yes, this means if you make North 5125, it will pass the double, not because it wants to penalise, but because now none of these rules match.

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