jammen Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 [hv=pc=n&s=sak2hakt964dqj74c&w=s65h87d653cqj9875&n=sqt9hq52dk92ct643&e=sj8743hj3dat8cak2]399|300[/hv] Sorry, I forgot to add the bidding. East opened 1♦, I doubled, pass, partner bid 1nt showing 5-10 HCP and a stop in spades. I thought that I was too good for 2♥ so I jumped to 3♥ which went swish. When I looked to see what 3♥ meant it only says 5+ ♥, but surely it has to be forcing, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Never make an off-shape takeout double with GIB; it can't handle any followups. But your description doesn't match; I assume you meant East opened 1♠, but the description of 3♥ is 20+ HCP, strong rebiddable hearts, and GIB raises to 4♥. Can you post the original hand with alerts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammen Posted February 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Sorry, it was a 1♠ opener. I did save the hand into a favorites folder, I'll try to figure out how to import it. What do you bid if you don't double with this hand? Also, my description of 3 hearts in this auction was 5+ hearts and nothing else. Does prime bbo and advanced robots have different descriptions? How do you get different descriptions than I get? here is a handviewer link; My link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted February 18, 2023 Report Share Posted February 18, 2023 Ha, this one is really good. So if North isn't a passed hand, 3♥ is as I described before. It's only broken if North is a passed hand. In the ~10 year old version of GIB that I can debug with, it has specific rules that say that after a 1NT response to a takeout double: - a new suit at the 2 level is 17+ if partner is an unpassed hand, but *11 or less* if not- a new suit at the 3 level is 20+ if partner is an unpassed hand, but *11 or less* if not BBO must have fixed 2 level bids, since it now shows a good hand either way, but never adjusted the latter. So I guess the original double showing 12+ and the 3♥ showing 11- wipes out the rest of the description. Why the original code distinguished them based on partner's position, I have no idea. It probably intended to check whether *you* were a passed hand, rather than partner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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