jillybean Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 [hv=pc=n&n=skqhaqt52dkq87ca3&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=p1n(12-14)p?]133|200[/hv] What is your plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 DoubleIllegal bid sorry 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Illegal bid sorry It's a shame - it would score well, but 4NT quantitative if dbl is unavailable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBengtsson Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 You could be lazy and bid 4♣ as Gerber, but I hope I am with a partner who enjoys constructive bidding and can help me find the grand slam. 2♦ transfer to 2♥ followed by 3♦ and see whether partner can support ♥s now. RKCB will then determine if partner has the 3 key cards, and (maybe) a ask for ♣K after (though that might not be needed) the loser disappears on the ♠A. The first thing you need to find out is whether partner has support for your ♥ suit here imo. With 3 or 4 card (there is a slight possibility partner can super accept) support the grand is most definitely on. With only 2 card support, then you need a few other things to go right on the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 [hv=pc=n&n=skqhaqt52dkq87ca3&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=p1n(12-14)p2dp2hp3dp3hp]133|200[/hv] If you continue with keycard partner will show 2 and you guessed it, no Q We haven't discussed super accept, I haven't considered super accept in a weak nt context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Gerber followed by 6 or 7 NT :lol: Scrub that its 12-14 Think again Did that. It could still work - but possibly explore other options first :) EDIT Small sim suggest original plan could work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 4NT quantitative? NoGerber? NoTransfer to H, followed by a 3D bid? Yes. We have agreements to show a double fit here which could get you to 7D opposite Axx Kxx AJxx xxx or similar.Then after 3H KC and then 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 6NT.We have 32-34 joint HCP, two balanced hands, stops and at least one 5 card suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Xfer followed by 3D. Describe your hand, try to locate a fit. After the KC ask showed 2, ..., I would go with 6H,but 6NT is certainly reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Form of scoring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 MP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 MP The key card to find out about is the ♣K as this will very likely tell you whether you want to be in 6N or 6♥ (if partner has ♠Axx(x) your losing club will go on the spade in hearts). You also want to know if partner has 3 or 4 hearts, if he has 4 you can safely ruff your last diamond whether he has 2 or 3. I don't know your system well enough to know how you go about this, I would already know whether partner had 4 hearts as we superaccept all the time. I think I would bid 3♠ which must be a cue (or I'd have bid 2♠ rather than 3♦) over 3♥ and see if partner cues 4♣. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw64ahw Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Given you're potentially looking at the grand I'm cue-bidding 3♠ first rather than moving directly to key carding.The way I play; 3NT by North now denies a ♥ honour and 4♣ would show a ♣ control + a ♥ honour.If you get a 4♣ reply then 4♠ shows 2KCs etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 A great start. 1NT-2♦*; 2♥-3♦; 3♥ sets trumps, and now we can make a control bid with 3♠. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerardo Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 As the 3♠ bidders above, can find about some of ♣K, ♦A, ♠A, before asking KCs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 6NT.We have 32-34 joint HCP, two balanced hands, stops and at least one 5 card suit. And partner's not allowed to hold Axx, Kxx, Axx, Kxxx ? Or AJ10x, KJx, Jx, Qxxx where 6♥ is cold barring extreme distribution, and 6N is dodgy on a club lead (I suppose 6N is 50:50 if they find the right lead so might be worth bidding anyway at MPs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdiana Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Maybe this is too aggressive (I'm not used to playing with a weak 1NT) but how about 1NT - 2♦ - 2♥ - 5NT (pick a slam)? At least it's simple. :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 And partner's not allowed to hold Axx, Kxx, Axx, Kxxx ? Or AJ10x, KJx, Jx, Qxxx where 6♥ is cold barring extreme distribution, and 6N is dodgy on a club lead (I suppose 6N is 50:50 if they find the right lead so might be worth bidding anyway at MPs) Yes there are hands where 6♥ is a better contract and maybe there might be 7♦ on the day, but at MP I think the risks of exploration exceed the risk that 6NT is not a good score (in particular that we just inform the opponent on lead about which pointy ace his partner holds). At IMPs in a decent field we would transfer to hearts (with superaccepts available) and then secondary transfer to diamonds, which gives us nuanced information before we fix trumps and get into control-bids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Well, I'm pulling out the obscure part of my system. 1NT-2♦2♥ (assume)-2NT (5♥, 4c unknown minor, GF) and see what I get as a response. Assuming we both remember the system, I will know if we have a heart fit, whether partner thinks her hand is better for slam if I have a specific minor or whether it doesn't matter, and I'll be able to go on. If we do have a heart fit, I'll be able to get a cue for the ♣K before I have to keycard, which is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 [hv=pc=n&s=sjt9hkj74daj54cq7&w=s865h986dt62ct652&n=skqhaqt52dkq87ca3&e=sa7432h3d93ckj984&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=p1np2dp2hp3dp3hp4np5hp6hppp]399|300[/hv] Wrong sided, c'est la vie! We need to discuss 1N 2D 2H 3D 3H setting trump, 3S start of cue bid sequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 3♥ is poor, give partner a different hand, Ax, AQxxxx, KQxx, A and you want to play 7♦, Ax, AQ10xx, KQxx, Ax you want to play 6♦. We would break the transfer. The opener has all the ingredients of a hand that may play a trick better in diamonds, decent diamonds and a useful discard of a doubleton on the long heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 [hv=pc=n&s=sjt9hkj74daj54cq7&w=s865h986dt62ct652&n=skqhaqt52dkq87ca3&e=sa7432h3d93ckj984&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=p1np2dp2hp3dp3hp4np5hp6hppp]399|300[/hv] Wrong sided, c'est la vie! We need to discuss 1N 2D 2H 3D 3H setting trump, 3S start of cue bid sequence. Sad indeed :( But it's duplicate so not too bad IMPs or MPs? Who went with 4NT :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw64ahw Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 It may be 12hcp, but it's a weak 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2023 Sad indeed :( But it's duplicate so not too bad10/14 tables it was played in the South 6NT and 6♥ making once.One other North played in 6nt-1, everyone else was in some number of hearts or NTNot good. IMPs or MPs?MP Who went with 4NT :)Guilty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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