thepossum Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 [hv=pc=n&s=shaqjt83dakqjt8c5&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=ppp]133|200[/hv] MPs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 In the old days, you'd open 1♥ and rebid 6♦. I imagine more scientific bidding these days. :-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted February 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 I was anxious about having a 1 bid passed and went via 2C which was difficultPartner had a positive club response and I found it difficult to fully exploreEnded in 6NT, not the best when there was a possible grand in hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBengtsson Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 In the old days, you'd open 1♥ and rebid 6♦. I imagine more scientific bidding these days. :-) That made me laugh. The Culbertson era. I would still open 1♥ here instead of 2♣ for the simple reason the hand is distributional and it not likely you will left to play there, and, more importantly, you have mentioned one of your suits at a low level. The last thing you would want to do is bidding one of them at the five level, assuming the opps. have pre-emptive in ♣ or ♠ when you open 2♣. Edit: The vulnerability and hand position has just been added as I write, or I am having a senior moment :( With the opps. quiet I prefer a 2♣ opening. A ideal hand for Kokish 2♣ - 2♦ - 2♥ - 2♠ - 3♦ showing both suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted February 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 Correction I don't think any grands were really on Will post soon and see what people think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 1♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted February 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 1H did appear to be the top bid chosen I am always anxious about pass out at 1 level but maybe not with this many points - unlikely I guess Always hearts first, not diamonds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted February 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 Edit: The vulnerability and hand position has just been added as I write, or I am having a senior moment :( I hate to say the vulnerability, hand position and all other details have not changed since the original post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 1H did appear to be the top bid chosen I am always anxious about pass out at 1 level but maybe not with this many points - unlikely I guess Always hearts first, not diamonds? Always ♥, 1♦ then ♥'s would show longer diamonds than hearts. I want to be able to show this 6 bagger, if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 This is a really bad hand to start with 2♣. I would always open this 1♥. Kokish would show this hand nicely but the chance that one of the three opponents will disturb our masterfully crafted auction is tremendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1201 Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 The key word is anticipation. True, an undisturbed auction might let you express your shape (or at least 55) nicely. But it not unlikely that your 2nd bid might be at the 5-level. Starting with 1H and make forcing bids repeating D ad nauseam will help partner judge better. Starting with 2C and tossing a coin on which suit you bury when the bidding gets you back at 4S (absent some unusual NT bids or forcing passes, that are probably too advanced notions for beginners) is not as pleasant, right? There is virtually no chance the bidding dies at 1H pass pass pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_lol_ Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 4NT for specific Ace/king ask if you have that (which we dont)if 2♣-(2S)-X*/P-(4S)-4NT is not natural (and it cant be), 2C is fine... I guess?*X=double negativeIf you bid 1H-(2S)-?-(4S), you have the bid 5D but what difference does it have?if the contract is not (or rarely) contested, than it doesnt make any big differenceMaybe the auction will go:1H-(1S)-1NT-(2S)-3D(should be forcing if good-bad 2nt is a thing)-(4S)-P-PThen maybe you can bid 4NT, showing shape (and slam intrest?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 2♣-(2♠)-X/P/2NT/3♣-(4♠); 4NT*-(5♠)-X-(P); ?. Your call? P.S.: Forcing pass was on here, so double just says partner does not have faith in the 6-level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_lol_ Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 2♣-(2♠)-X/P/2NT/3♣-(4♠); 4NT*-(5♠)-X-(P); ?. Your call? P.S.: Forcing pass was on here, so double just says partner does not have faith in the 6-level.Oh no, this hand is becoming too stressful for a beginner like me. Do I think my partner has ♣A/♥K? if partner had responded 2nt (promises honor and sopport for all suits, at least for us, which is not possible because I have AKQ in diamonds so my partner must have bid a balanced 8-10 pointers and thought thats what it shows), 6H. On a bad day, he would have both ♥K and ♣A, but I dont have enough space to look for them.if 3C, 6D/6H (I forgot the hand; is the heart suit self sufficient?)if P/X, than I'll pass after the disencouraging double. On a bad day the opponents will make 5SX+1 (by ruffing everything) or we have 6D/H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted February 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 Here is the hand Lucky to make 6NT - not totally happy with how we got there - I risked the finesse immediately - maybe more advanced players can do it without that - I think you need the finesse(please don't obsess over the robot bidding - other Bridge software managed an orderly process to 6H) Many made 6H or 6H+1One gambled on the grand I was just anxious about 1H being passed but etc [hv=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=st||pn|thepossum,~~M54597,~~M54595,~~M54596|md|2SHAQJT83DAKQJT8C5,SAQ75H62D973CJT86,SKT3H975D62CAK742,SJ98642HK4D54CQ93|sv|b|rh||ah|Board%204|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|mb|2C|an|Strong%20two%20club%20--%2019+%20HCP;%2023+%20total%20points;%20forcing%20to%202N|mb|P|mb|3C|an|Positive%20--%205+%20!C;%2011-%20HCP;%20!CKQ;%208-12%20total%20points%20|mb|P|mb|3H|an|5+%20!H;%2019+%20HCP;%2023+%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|6N|an|5+%20!C;%2011%20HCP;%20!CKQ;%2012%20total%20points%20|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|S6|pc|H3|pc|SA|pc|S3|pc|S7|pc|SK|pc|S2|pc|H8|pc|H5|pc|H4|pc|HQ|pc|H6|pc|DA|pc|D3|pc|D2|pc|D4|pc|DK|pc|D7|pc|D6|pc|D5|pc|DJ|pc|D9|pc|C2|pc|C3|pc|DQ|pc|C8|pc|C4|pc|S9|pc|DT|pc|H2|pc|H7|pc|S8|mc|12|]400|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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