Multi 2D - how do you play a 2M opening?

[Cyberyeti]

Yes, it's called 'Velociraptor'.

 

In one partnership I played

 

2♣ = Multi 2♦-like (with 6M3-OM or 5M4+m3-OM) or GF with primary hearts

2♦ = Ekren (with 4+S4+H) or GF with primary spades

2M = Velociraptor (with 4M5+m3-OM)

 

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Illegal now in EBUland

[jillybean]

2 multi hands from yesterday's game.

 

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Dealer East

P (P) 2♦ (3♦)

X (P) 3♥

 

X undiscussed

 

3♥-1 for 17 of the 24 MP, we would be in the same spot if playing weak 2H.

I would have opened the south hand

 

 

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[pescetom]

The first one, NS should be bidding from the start.

The second one looks like another "no difference" too. You don't say what 2NT is, but I see no reason to bid to slam in any case (nobody promised E that diamonds would behave).

[jillybean]

I do play multi, and have for many years (although until recently only in team trials or international events since it wasn’t allowed in most ACBL events)

 

I’ve played 2M as weak 2 values, with 5M and 5(sometimes 4 esp nv) another suit.

 

If 5S then the other suit is a minor

 

If 5H, may have spades

 

Also played where 2M is always 5M, 4+ minor

 

A third approach I’ve played is 2D is a weak weak 2Mand 2M is 8-10/11. I really don’t like that except at favourable in first and second seat

 

Currently I play a fourth style, on which the jury is out until we get more samples. 2D is a weak 2M, 5-10 and 2M is 6M 10-13 (the overlap is to allow judgement)

 

"If 5H, may have spades"

 

If 2♥ may have 4 spades, and assuming 2nt is a positive response, how does partner ask for the minor? 3♣ pass or correct?

[DavidKok]

I completely misread what mikeh wrote, I'm sorry if anybody caught the previous version of this post.

 

You would presumably not use 2NT to ask for a minor over 2♥ as a runout, but incorporate 2♠ 'pass or correct'. You can safely ask with strong hands though.

[jillybean]

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