pilowsky Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 This hand was bid and played by 4 robots.The handviewer reproduces it correctly, but the information in the handviewer is wrong and bridgesolver can't understand it - see link below.[edit] You get the same fault if you click bridgesolver with this page too.[hv=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C1sat6ht8dtct987642%2Csq85ha974d852caq3%2Csj43hkj32daq743ck%2Csk972hq65dkj96cj5%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7Cboard%203%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1c%7Can%7Cminor%20suit%20opening%20--%203%2B%20%21c%3B%2011-21%20hcp%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7Ctakeout%20double%20--%202-%20%21c%3B%203-5%20%21d%3B%203-4%20%21h%3B%203-4%20%21s%3B%2012%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cr%7Can%7C4-%20%21c%3B%2010%2B%20hcp%3B%20opponents%20cannot%20play%20undoubled%20below%202n%7Cmb%7C1s%7Can%7Clength%20--%204%2B%20%21s%3B%2011-%20hcp%3B%2012-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7Cpenalty%20--%204-%20%21c%3B%204%2B%20%21s%3B%2010%2B%20hcp%3B%20opponents%20cannot%20play%20undoubled%20below%202n%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7Cs5%7Cpc%7Cs3%7Cpc%7Csk%7Cpc%7Csa%7Cpc%7Cdt%7Cpc%7Cd2%7Cpc%7Cda%7Cpc%7Cd6%7Cpc%7Cd7%7Cpc%7Cdj%7Cpc%7Cs6%7Cpc%7Cd8%7Cpc%7Ch8%7Cpc%7Cha%7Cpc%7Ch2%7Cpc%7Ch5%7Cpc%7Csq%7Cpc%7Cs4%7Cpc%7Cs9%7Cpc%7Cst%7Cpc%7Cca%7Cpc%7Cck%7Cpc%7Cc5%7Cpc%7Cc2%7Cpc%7Cs8%7Cpc%7Csj%7Cpc%7Cs7%7Cpc%7Cc7%7Cpc%7Cd4%7Cpc%7Cd9%7Cpc%7Cc8%7Cpc%7Cd5%7Cpc%7Cs2%7Cpc%7Cc9%7Cpc%7Ch4%7Cpc%7Ch3%7Cpc%7Ccj%7Cpc%7Cct%7Cpc%7Ccq%7Cpc%7Chj%7Cpc%7Ch9%7Cpc%7Chk%7Cpc%7Ch6%7Cpc%7Cht%7Cpc%7Cdq%7Cpc%7Cdk%7Cpc%7Cc6%7Cpc%7Cc3%7Cpc%7Chq%7Cpc%7Cc4%7Cpc%7Ch7%7Cpc%7Cd3%7C]400|300|[/hv] Bridgesolver sees this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 What information is wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 What information is wrong?1S by South. Just kidding.But Bridgesolver is more fussy about .lin than BBO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 I guess the real question is, where did you get the lin file from? It appears BBO's handviewer supports suits and honor cards being in lowercase, but BridgeSolver does not. And your lin file has them in lowercase. Everywhere that I can see BBO providing lin files, they're in uppercase. So either: - you used a third party tool to extract a lin somehow, and that tool is at fault- some area of BBO provides them in lowercase, and that area of BBO may be at fault- lin is supposed to support lowercase, and BridgeSolver is at fault Edit - ah, yes, it must be a glitch specific to challenge-a-robot, as the hand records with GIB at all 4 tables do indeed result in all of these being lowercase, while all other records throughout BBO, including the human side of the same challenge, do not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted October 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 Edit - ah, yes, it must be a glitch specific to challenge-a-robot, as the hand records with GIB at all 4 tables do indeed result in all of these being lowercase, while all other records throughout BBO, including the human side of the same challenge, do not. Yep, this is the only situation where I've seen this.And copying the file to a text file and manually changing the lin file part to uppercase fixes the problem allowing bridgesolver to understand it.Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 I've been talking with the author of Bridge Solver and he had a first stab at solving this new issue created by BBO writing unorthodox .LIN.BSOL now works for me on this diagram, please check for yourselves and also on that page created by Thorvald where BSOL worked for some but not for others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted November 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 I've been talking with the author of Bridge Solver and he had a first stab at solving this new issue created by BBO writing unorthodox .LIN.BSOL now works for me on this diagram, please check for yourselves and also on that page created by Thorvald where BSOL worked for some but not for others. Fixed! Please buy your friend a coffee for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 There's no official specification for LIN files (we don't even have an internal document). So if BBO produces it, it's not "unorthodox". Unfortunately, this means that third-party products like BridgeSolver are on their own to reverse-engineer it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 Fixed! Please buy your friend a coffee for me The latest version 1.32 should also fix a timing bug that caused the page by Thorvald to work for him but not others: it will be available when Chrome Web Store so deems :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 The latest version 1.32 should also fix a timing bug that caused the page by Thorvald to work for him but not others: it will be available when Chrome Web Store so deems :) Now available and seems to work correctly for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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