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Leading fourth highest


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I think the rules for leading fourth highest should be updated.

 

But also interesting in the replay, that East can bid over 1N, but not over 1

 

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I think the rules for leading fourth highest should be updated.

 

But also interesting in the replay, that East can bid over 1N, but not over 1

 

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That first hand is curious. I tried running a small lead sim and could get no hands that matched the NT range and the other constraints. I can't see why. Maybe there are not many

But on giving my sim accurate parameters that it could find it led a top club - my sim did

 

But it is strange that it found it so hard to find nt hands that fitted South

 

I ran mine in bdeal but it is still strange

 

Also, I think the specific requirements for having a rule on 4th highest are to give your partner some clues about how many cards the opps have. I don't think understandings exist with GiB. But clearly I would lead the King of Clubs - also double checking my sim came up with a small club as next best

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