thorvald Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 [hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7Czsano%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C4SK642HKJ82DKT92CA%2CST3HA43DAQ8CJ9762%2CSJ8HT975DJ753CT85%2CSAQ975HQ6D64CKQ43%7Csv%7CN%7Cah%7CBoard%202%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20%21S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CD%7Can%7CTakeout%20double%20--%203-5%20%21C%3B%203-5%20%21D%3B%203-4%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2012%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CR%7Can%7C2-%20%21S%3B%2010%2B%20HCP%3B%20opponents%20cannot%20play%20undoubled%20below%202N%7Cmb%7C2D%7Can%7CLength%20--%204%2B%20%21D%7Cmb%7C3C%7Can%7C4%2B%20%21C%3B%205%2B%20%21S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C3D%7Can%7C3-5%20%21C%3B%204-5%20%21D%3B%203-4%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2015%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CD%7Can%7C2-%20%21S%3B%2012%2B%20HCP%3B%2013%2B%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3S%7Can%7C4%2B%20%21C%3B%205%2B%20%21S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3N%7Can%7C4-%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2014-21%20HCP%3B%20likely%20stop%20in%20%21C%3B%20stop%20in%20%21D%3B%20stop%20in%20%21H%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CSA%7C]399|300[/hv] We have often seen how the bot takes a finesse, but the later play for the drop. Here 9 tricks was safe, but the bot finessed in the two-card ending and went down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Doubling spades with 4441 was too far outside the realms of possibility. As always, bid weirdly, and you'll occasionally get results. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorvald Posted September 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Doubling spades with 4441 was too far outside the realms of possibility. As always, bid weirdly, and you'll occasionally get results. Well, it was not the brightest declarer play by GIB, noticed how it plays ♦ before knocking out ♣A. At trick 8 it is seen that South had a single ♣. So with 2 cards the bot "knows" that south had doubles on either ♠642♥KJT82♦KT92♣A or ♠K642♥KJ82♦KT92♣A I am not sure what is most probable, but 3♦ (promising 15+ total points) make the last my favorite But the main issue is taking a finesse for an overtrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 But the main issue is taking a finesse for an overtrickWell no, that's a side effect of the real issue, which is that it considers your first example impossible (or at least, extremely unlikely), due to having *two* more spades than promised. Having made that assumption the finesse is an obvious play, so no secondary issues there. But GIB is never going to be able to handle psychs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 I’m not sure it’s good form to post hands from other players, particularly if you are going to put their name in the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 I’m not sure it’s good form to post hands from other players, particularly if you are going to put their name in the title.I think renaming the player as 'human' or whatever would normally be sufficient. But if she is well known or there are elements that permit people to locate the board in myhands then I would ask permission too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBengtsson Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 I do not understand GIB declarer play here whatsoever! At trick 2 it plays a ♠. Why? Something is very wrong with the program if it does not know that you set up tricks in your longest suit first in a NT contract is first priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorvald Posted October 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 I'm not sure it's good form to post hands from other players, particularly if you are going to put their name in the title. I really see no problem in that, but perhaps there is something I am misunderstanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 I really see no problem in that, but perhaps there is something I am misunderstandingI think there clearly is.The player you named might object to others being invited to judge their play.A question of privacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorvald Posted October 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 I think there clearly is.The player you named might object to others being invited to judge their play.A question of privacy. The deal is publish on the webpage with Robot challenges by BBO, so no privacy. When playing on BBO you accept that all your deals are public Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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