michel444 Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 Transfer openingstrong club and Forcing pass biding system have set of limited openingsome of them have a structure of transfer openingthe idea is in general acepting the transfer is a game/try or better when the strong hand is going to be declarer moscito have only 3 transfer opening1♦ 4+♥ 9-14 HCP (with 2Ace and distribitution its ok to open )1♥ 4+♠ 9-14 HCP ♠ > ♥ or equal 5=51♠ 4+ ♦ may have longer clubit also have 2 Natural opening1 NT 11-14 balanced no 5 cards Major2♣ 6+♣ no 4card ♦ in the original no 4M (now may have a bad 4card major like xxx x or J xxx you can very long sequence1♦ 1♥1♠ 1 NT2 ♣ 2♦2♥ 2♠2 NT ......the first 1 describe a 4=4=1=4 with minimum value like 3 King or 2 king and 2 Queen or 2 Ace the J are ignored for the moment or very short 1 like 1♦ pass1♦ 4+ ♥ pass 5+♦ 0-2 ♥ 0-7 HCP 1♦ 4+♥ 9-14 HCP 3♥ 4+ ♥ 0-10 HCP NO GAME IT IS NOT A LIMIT RAISE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT HARD FOR OTHER SIDE TO COMPETmICHEL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foobar Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 FWIW, the goal of systems like Moscito is "quick in, quick out", i.e., the emphasis with the transfer openings is get our 7(8) card major fit ASAP. Occasionally, you'll have the leisurely relay auction, but it's like 15% or less of all such openings based on memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 FWIW, the goal of systems like Moscito is "quick in, quick out", i.e., the emphasis with the transfer openings is get our 7(8) card major fit ASAP. Occasionally, you'll have the leisurely relay auction, but it's like 15% or less of all such openings based on memory. Another quick note: Modern versions of MOSCITO typically include options OTHER than relays to show hands with 4+ card support and game invitational slam invitational values. In the version I prefer, this includes 1. A game invitational raise that shows 4+ card support and game invite+ values2. Fit showing jumps that show a 6 card suit and 3 card support for opener's major3. Splinter raises The logic here is that if we have a fit for opener's major, the opponent's have a fit as well and its likely that they're going to be able to jam our relay auction. So, it's better to clarify support ASAP. High level comment: I think that most people now appreciate that the real value of a strong club opening isn't the 1!C opening itself, but rather that it provides the ability to make light / limited openings. In much the same way, the value of the relay responses over the constructive openings is that it enables a better constructive response structure by freeing up a lot of other bids. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel444 Posted September 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 Another quick note: Modern versions of MOSCITO typically include options OTHER than relays to show hands with 4+ card support and game invitational slam invitational values. In the version I prefer, this includes 1. A game invitational raise that shows 4+ card support and game invite+ values2. Fit showing jumps that show a 6 card suit and 3 card support for opener's major3. Splinter raises The logic here is that if we have a fit for opener's major, the opponent's have a fit as well and its likely that they're going to be able to jam our relay auction. So, it's better to clarify support ASAP. High level comment: I think that most people now appreciate that the real value of a strong club opening isn't the 1!C opening itself, but rather that it provides the ability to make light / limited openings. In much the same way, the value of the relay responses over the constructive openings is that it enables a better constructive response structure by freeing up a lot of other bids. thank You! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel444 Posted September 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 Strong Pass Relay Ever Avoiding Defending Opening Bids PASS 15+ HCP. 1♣ 9−14 HCP balanced or 8−13 HCP unbalanced, 4+H, may be balanced, three−suited or have a longer second suit.1♦ 10−14 HCP balanced or 9−13 HCP unbalanced, 4+S, 0−3H, may be balanced, three−suited or have alonger minor suit. 1♥ 0−7/8 HCP unbalanced/balanced with hearts, or 0−5/6 HCP unbalanced/balanced/ without hearts. 1♠ 7−9 HCP balanced without hearts or 10 HCP balanced with no major or 6−8 HCP unbalanced without hearts.1NT / 11−14 HCP 1−3S 1−3H 2−5D 2−5C, balanced with no major or 5−4 or 4−5 with both minors.2♣ /10−14 HCP 6+C 0−3S 0−3H 0−4D. 2♦ / 10−14 HCP 6+D 0−3S 0−3H 0−4C.2♥ /4+H 4+S, weak, undisciplined.2♠ /5+S, weak, undisciplined.2 NT 10−14 HCP 5+D 5+C. 3X Normal three−level actions subject to vulnerability and positional concerns.3NT A four−level minor preempt.4m Stronger than the corresponding 4M opening4M to play (normal level 4 in Majornot all the opening are in transfer 1♣ 1♦ 2NT 3NT 4♣4♦ ARE THE TRANSFER OPENING♣ transfer to ♥ ♦ transfer to ♠ more about the systemcan be found at mabrham page Spread link // http://www.users.on.net/~mabraham/systems/SPREAD/index.html / Michel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilun Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 Another quick note: Modern versions of MOSCITO typically include options OTHER than relays to show hands with 4+ card support and game invitational slam invitational values. In the version I prefer, this includes 1. A game invitational raise that shows 4+ card support and game invite+ values2. Fit showing jumps that show a 6 card suit and 3 card support for opener's major3. Splinter raises The logic here is that if we have a fit for opener's major, the opponent's have a fit as well and its likely that they're going to be able to jam our relay auction. So, it's better to clarify support ASAP. . We ditched the 3-6 fit jumps because the right hand never came up. We would do it on the wrong hands - such as a raise to two which happened to have a 6-card minor. Now we have them intermediate with no major fit. Working okay.It allows other auctions. In particular 1♦ - 1♠2♣ - 3 any where 1♦ = spades, not hearts & 2♣ any balanced.We use 3-any here as shortage, even in spades. This because hands worth 3m natural would have bid that first time.SPlinters in partner's possible four small have proved useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel444 Posted September 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 We ditched the 3-6 fit jumps because the right hand never came up. We would do it on the wrong hands - such as a raise to two which happened to have a 6-card minor. Now we have them intermediate with no major fit. Working okay.It allows other auctions. In particular 1♦ - 1♠2♣ - 3 any where 1♦ = spades, not hearts & 2♣ any balanced.We use 3-any here as shortage, even in spades. This because hands worth 3m natural would have bid that first time.SPlinters in partner's possible four small have proved useful.thank you !what do you open with ♥ ?Fit showing jump seem to be rare .was asking myself:partner open 1♦ to show 4+♥ and you have 8-11 point with 4-5 ♠ and 3 cards♥ what is better biding 1 ♠ or biding 2♥ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel444 Posted September 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Hole Transfers* 2.23 (hcp)-------------------------------------------------------This is an English system. Information from Richard Lighton,Wood-Ridge, New Jersey. Hole Transfers Opening Bids1♣ 13+ 4441 /12-16 unbalanced /17+ balanced /1♦ 6-12/17+ 5+ hearts /1♥ 6-12/17+ 5+ spades /1♠6-12/17+ 5+ clubs /1NT 13-16 balanced /2♣ 6-12/17+ 5+ diamonds2♦ 6-11 hearts and minor2♥6-11 majors2♠ 6-11 spades and minor2NT 6-11 minors From the book A Bridge System CollectionJan Eric LarssonPalo Alto, California, May 5th, 1995 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilun Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 thank you !what do you open with ♥ ?Fit showing jump seem to be rare .was asking myself:partner open 1♦ to show 4+♥ and you have 8-11 point with 4-5 ♠ and 3 cards♥ what is better biding 1 ♠ or biding 2♥ ? 1♣ = 16+1♦ = 4+♠s, denies 4♥s1♥ = 4+♥s, denies 4♠s1♠ = majors, 4+ 4+1NT = 12-15 no 4cM2♣/♦ = natural, no 4cM Thus every limit opening either shows or denies a major.The "denied major" concept has been discarded by some other systems, like Moscito, but we value it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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