defense

[michel444]

[hv=pc=n&e=sk94h74dqj9743c76&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1c(4%2BH%208-14%20HCP)p1d(Game%20forcing%20relay)]133|200[/hv]

Do you enter auction ?if yes how ?

south promise 4 +cards heart with 8-13 HCP unbalanced or 9-14 balanced

he may have any disribution he may have 6 or more ♣ ♦♠ he may have a long ♥ (6+)

he may be balanced 3=4=3=3 or 4432 5332

or 3 suiter 4441 or 5440

north ask for a description of hand w/o acepting denying Heart support and

think game is sure oposit a 8 point count with any shape..

[mycroft]

They're in a game-forcing auction, and are starting relays to work out slam (or which game, I guess).

 

I assume I'd know (or ask the basics) what their relays are going to show, and how high I have to bid to break the relays.

 

I assume I'd know (or can find out) what other GF or GF-possible calls South had available besides starting "relay time at the zoo".

 

I assume I'd know (or have asked for time to do some basic working out) our defence to the transfer openings, in particular what double and 1♥ meant. Because I know that partner doesn't have those hands.

 

Without all that information, it is impossible to determine what I would do.

 

But I'm guessing that 2♦ is relatively safe, relatively useful, relatively raiseable, and if it drops them out of relays, so much the better. If they double and get me for 500 into no slam - well, next time they might not guess right.

[foobar]

[hv=pc=n&e=sk94h74dqj9743c76&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1c(4%2BH%208-14%20HCP)p1d(Game%20forcing%20relay)]133|200[/hv]

Do you enter auction ?if yes how ?

south promise 4 +cards heart with 8-13 HCP unbalanced or 9-14 balanced

he may have any disribution he may have 6 or more ♣ ♦♠ he may have a long ♥ (6+)

he may be balanced 3=4=3=3 or 4432 5332

or 3 suiter 4441 or 5440

north ask for a description of hand w/o acepting denying Heart support and

think game is sure oposit a 8 point count with any shape..

Seems like a straightforward 2♦ to me. There's little to lose at this vul. given that they are already in a GF, and a good day, pard can raise ♦s. At any rate, as @mycroft noted, it knocks them out of relays, and they haven't named any suits yet.

[michel444]

normaly relay are broke if 3 level of biding were lost

so as auction went 1♣ pass 1♦

the next 3 step are 1♥ 1 ♠ 1 NT

2 ♣ AND ABOVE brak the relay

[michel444]

Seems like a straightforward 2♦ to me. There's little to lose at this vul. given that they are already in a GF, and a good day, pard can raise ♦s. At any rate, as @mycroft noted, it knocks them out of relays, and they haven't named any suits yet.

south has show 4 +♥ ...

 

michel

[michel444]

seem i forgot to note this hand the sequence wasnt short

and noted

at the end the final contract was 3NT

after s showing a 5=4=3=1 distribution

south have to play it

sorry

Michel