michel444 Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 [hv=pc=n&w=skq72h2dqckq75432&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=1hp2cp3np]133|200[/hv]this is the hand East west are playing Sayc with a 15-17 NT (rarely with a 5 cards major 1♥ 5+♥ 11+point2♣ 4+ ♣ 10+point forcing for 1 round3 NT ???what west should undestand from the 3NT rebid ?should he bid on?if yes what and why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw64ahw Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 There is a potential slam on with KQ ♣ and the shape, but the lack of Aces may be an issue.3NT suggests a decent ♥ suit and 15+hcp so some of the hcp accounted for.Only way you are going to find out is to bid 4♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel444 Posted September 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 There is a potential slam on with KQ ♣ and the shape, but the lack of Aces may be an issue.3NT suggests a decent ♥ suit and 15+hcp so some of the hcp accounted for.Only way you are going to find out is to bid 4♣4♣is Gerber ? Slam invite in ♣ ? S/O ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw64ahw Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 4♣is Gerber ? Slam invite in ♣ ? S/O ?If 4♣ is unavailable, then 4♦ as Kickback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Hi, the first question is, how strong is 3NT?The related question is, how strong is 2NT? Is it 12-14, or could it be split range 12-14 / 18-19? Another question: Do we talk about MP scoring or IMP scoring? But anyway, most of the time I will pass 3NT.I know, I can go down in 3NT, 5C / 6C making, but the other scenariois also possible. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL78 Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 It depends on your agreement on the strength of the 3NT bid. Some play it as 18-19 HCP, others play it as 15-19 HCP. In the first case I would bid 4♣ as a slam try with a good club suit. In the latter case I would probably pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel444 Posted September 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 3NT was 16-18 with a balanced 3=5=3=2 10+16= 26 so game is on fast arivaland also promised stopper in unbid suit 2NT same distribitution with 11-14 HPCwhen partner response 2 in a minor on a 5 cards major opening he may have 3 cards suport inviting or better he is not limited so the best i can do is to describe my hand as best as i canwith a stronger hand or lacking a side stopper would have to rebid a 3 cards suitthis is as far that i can bid with limitation of the "natural" 5 cards Major Michel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 3NT was 16-18 with a balanced 3=5=3=2 10+16= 26 so game is on fast arivaland also promised stopper in unbid suit 2NT same distribitution with 11-14 HPCwhen partner response 2 in a minor on a 5 cards major opening he may have 3 cards suport inviting or better he is not limited so the best i can do is to describe my hand as best as i canwith a stronger hand or lacking a side stopper would have to rebid a 3 cards suitthis is as far that i can bid with limitation of the "natural" 5 cards Major MichelIf 3NT is 16-18, it is quite likely, that he will have 2+ Aces, hence you can bid 4Cwith a high probabiliy, that you are not going down in 5C, whatever 4C may mean besidessetting clubs as trumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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