very strong balanced responding hand

[Gilithin]

Not true in the GIB 2/1 system, at least according to the descriptions. As for human players, it depends on partnership agreements.

I addressed the matter of up-the-line bidding system in the section immediately following this that you conveniently chose to cut.

[mikeh]

A pathetic attempt at a lame joke!

I think that's progress - rather than a flamewar breaking out, one of us attempts a lame joke, which briefly irks the other one.

 

If I had been trying to make a point, it would have been that I respectfully disagree. But I couldn't have said anything better than what Roger and the late Justin already wrote on bridgewinners in this thread: https://bridgewinners.com/article/view/acbl-tests-online-nabc-event/

 

E.g., Roger:

Thanks for this. I looked at some of the comments on that thread (only a score or so out of 800+) and learned (or re-learned) that there are at least two variants of GIB. I suspect that my views are based on having encountered GIB only when playing solitaire and that the GIB that does that is the less ‘skilled’. Thus I didn’t recognize ‘deception’ or ‘good overall judgement’ as attributes of GIB.

 

I’m sure we all have GIB stories. I have too many to recite. However on one hand my RHO opened a minor, I overcalled in spades and eventually RHO reversed into hearts….and its partner, with a stiff heart and 4 card support for the minor, passed. Their vulnerable 4-1 fit played about as well as you’d expect

 

 

Also, forget balancing…GIB raises you as if you have an opening hand, etc.

 

If the advanced version minimizes these bugs, then maybe I’m being too harsh.

[johnu]

I addressed the matter of up-the-line bidding system in the section immediately following this that you conveniently chose to cut.

OP stated that he was playing a robot individual, and the GIB system does not require an unbalanced hand to rebid 1♠. So all the analysis assuming that 1♠ promises an unbalanced hand does not apply in the GIB system.

[Gilithin]

OP stated that he was playing a robot individual, and the GIB system does not require an unbalanced hand to rebid 1♠. So all the analysis assuming that 1♠ promises an unbalanced hand does not apply in the GIB system.

If the thread is meant to talk GIBish then it should be moved to the appropriate forum. As long as it is in Natural Systems, it is appropriate to discuss bidding system options in general.

[nullve]

If the thread is meant to talk GIBish then it should be moved to the appropriate forum. As long as it is in Natural Systems, it is appropriate to discuss bidding system options in general.

Are you sure?

 

Natural Bidding Discussion

This is the place to discuss popular systems like SAYC, 2-over-1 game force, and similar systems. General advice, system notes, how to continue an auction on a specific hand and related discussions.

GIB Robot Discussion

Report GIB bugs (new thread for a new bug please)

Suggest systems that GIB should play

Discuss GIB strategies

Report..ahem, good plays by GIB

[bluenikki]

If the thread is meant to talk GIBish then it should be moved to the appropriate forum. As long as it is in Natural Systems, it is appropriate to discuss bidding system options in general.

As I tried to make clear, I am not complaining about what GIB should or should not do.

 

I am interested in what to do with a human partner when there has been the absolute minimum discussion of system subtleties.

 

That is *not* a trivial subject.