strong response to better minor

[michel444]

[hv=pc=n&e=sa96hkq4dt652caq8]133|100[/hv] you are siting east

west deal an open 1 ♦

the biding system of biding is a variation off 5 cards major better minor.

North pass

1. what do you bid

2.what should your partner understand from your bid ?

[Cyberyeti]

Is it REALLY better minor ?

 

If 3-3 or 4-4 in the minors, do you pick the better one or always pick the same one ?

 

That will affect what I do here

[DavidKok]

I'm not sufficiently familiar with the system. 2♦ inverted minor seems like the only candidate. Are people bidding 2♣ or something? or 3NT 12-15 bal?

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

3NT as 13-15 bal., looks like a pretty good description.

Inverted Minors looks like a way of giving opponents free hints with regards

to opening leads.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[michel444]

Is it REALLY better minor ?

 

If 3-3 or 4-4 in the minors, do you pick the better one or always pick the same one ?

 

That will affect what I do here

I don't like better minor with 4-4 in minor u open 1 diamond with 3-3 always 1 club .

[Cyberyeti]

I don't like better minor with 4-4 in minor u open 1 diamond with 3-3 always 1 club .

 

Yup, that's pretty standard, I would start with 2♦ inverted. If I don't have that, 3N 13-15 3343/3334 is also possible.

[michel444]

Yup, that's pretty standard, I would start with 2♦ inverted. If I don't have that, 3N 13-15 3343/3334 is also possible.

inverted minor is a great idea !

never understood what opener rebid after to show minimum openinig[hv=pc=n&w=skt85hj93daqj94c3]133|100[/hv]

anyway this is west hand and oponet lead the 7 of♣ to king and i took with the ace of club tryed the diamond finees who lost and another club

i end up 1 down

[Cyberyeti]

inverted minor is a great idea !

never understood what opener rebid after to show minimum openinig[hv=pc=n&w=skt85hj93daqj94c3]133|100[/hv]

anyway this is west hand and oponet lead the 7 of♣ to king and i took with the ace of club tryed the diamond finees who lost and another club

i end up 1 down

 

Depends on whether you play 1♦-2♦ forcing to game or just a one round force, but 1♦-2♦-2♠ is how it's likely to start particularly if your invert can contain a 4 card major as ours can but most peoples' can't.

 

Many minimums bid 3♦ over the invert.

[mikeh]

inverted minor is a great idea !

never understood what opener rebid after to show minimum openinig[hv=pc=n&w=skt85hj93daqj94c3]133|100[/hv]

anyway this is west hand and oponet lead the 7 of♣ to king and i took with the ace of club tryed the diamond finees who lost and another club

i end up 1 down

So your choices were: reach 3N by responder and go down when they guess to lead a club AND the diamond hook fails or reach 5D by west and usually go down (you might make if you can take 3 spade tricks without losing one, but take away the impossible to value spade 9 and you’ll lose a spade trick much of the time,..take away the 10 instead, and you’ll lose a spade trick every time, or stay out of spgame with 26 hcp, every suit double stopped and a source of tricks

 

Bridge is fun in larger part because, no matter how well one bids, one can fail in a good contract or sometimes make a hair-raisingly bad contract

 

Shrug, move on.

 

As for my response…depends who I’m playing with. In one partnership, 1D promises an unbalanced hand )will have as few as 4 only if 1444/4144/4441) and now I’d use inverted. But we play a fairly complex set of responses…here opener would bid 3D to show a minimum and I’d bid the doomed 3N. C’est la vie

[michel444]

So your choices were: reach 3N by responder and go down when they guess to lead a club AND the diamond hook fails or reach 5D by west and usually go down (you might make if you can take 3 spade tricks without losing one, but take away the impossible to value spade 9 and you’ll lose a spade trick much of the time,..take away the 10 instead, and you’ll lose a spade trick every time, or stay out of spgame with 26 hcp, every suit double stopped and a source of tricks

 

Bridge is fun in larger part because, no matter how well one bids, one can fail in a good contract or sometimes make a hair-raisingly bad contract

 

Shrug, move on.

 

As for my response…depends who I’m playing with. In one partnership, 1D promises an unbalanced hand )will have as few as 4 only if 1444/4144/4441) and now I’d use inverted. But we play a fairly complex set of responses…here opener would bid 3D to show a minimum and I’d bid the doomed 3N. C’est la vie

Thank you very much !