mycroft Posted September 17, 2022 Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 Thanks David. I don't have that style, but I appreciate the explanation. It really wasn't making sense to me. Will think on it - as almost always with your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted September 17, 2022 Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 Double - 1003NT - 504♥ - 501♠ - 401♦ - 40Other - 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel444 Posted September 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 I'd bid 1♦ at IMPs, and probably also at matchpoints though I could easily be convinced that this is a bad idea at that form of scoring. A 1♠ overcall is also interesting at MPs. Pass and double are poor choices.MAYBE SHOULD MAKE A NEW THREAD[hv=pc=n&s=skqt94hj6dqt73caj&w=sjhakt7dak6ckq632&n=sa752h54d85ct9754&e=s863hq9832dj942c8&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1cpp1d1h3s]399|300|4+SPADE 8+HCP[/hv]East west have a contract of 4♥ ?what went wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilithin Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 East west have a contract of 4♥ ?what went wrongYou start the auction with 1♣ - P and ask why the pair did not bid game? Maybe you would like to re-think that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 MAYBE SHOULD MAKE A NEW THREAD[hv=pc=n&s=skqt94hj6dqt73caj&w=sjhakt7dak6ckq632&n=sa752h54d85ct9754&e=s863hq9832dj942c8&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1cpp1d1h3s]399|300|4+SPADE 8+HCP[/hv]East west have a contract of 4♥ ?what went wrong Well I never pass 1♣ particularly if it can be short with the E hand and also playing standard methods I bid 2♥ not 1, I also would double when 3♠ came back to me if I did bid 1♥, we get to 4♥, they prob save in 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL78 Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 MAYBE SHOULD MAKE A NEW THREAD[hv=pc=n&s=skqt94hj6dqt73caj&w=sjhakt7dak6ckq632&n=sa752h54d85ct9754&e=s863hq9832dj942c8&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1cpp1d1h3s]399|300|4+SPADE 8+HCP[/hv]East west have a contract of 4♥ ?what went wrong West forgot they have a stonking maximum one level opener. I think that is worth bidding 2♥ on the second round. East is worth a 1♥ response if West understands East could hold sub-minimal responding strength with a club shortage and a five card major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenikki Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 Also, there is a significant problem with overcalling on a four-card suit on this hand. When you eventually win the contract in a Moysian-fit spade contract, you will be forced in clubs!when you are declaring a 4-3, you don't call it being forced. You call it reversing the dummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 when you are declaring a 4-3, you don't call it being forced. You call it reversing the dummy. Or a crossruff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel444 Posted September 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 West forgot they have a stonking maximum one level opener. I think that is worth bidding 2♥ on the second round. East is worth a 1♥ response if West understands East could hold sub-minimal responding strength with a club shortage and a five card major.seem to me that the biding of South is unclear South enter the auction with 1 Diamond to Show 4+♠ and 8+ High count pointin balancing position South should have more point his partner inability to bid over 1 club say he is limited and unlikely to have a 4 cards major and 8+point but may have a balanced 9-12 with no 4 cards major the best south can do is pass and let them play 1♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilithin Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 in balancing position e should have more point his partner inability to bid over 1 club say he is limited and unlikely to have a 4 cards major and 8+point but may have a balanced 9-12 with no 4 cards majorEast might have a balanced 9-12 for their Pass of a 1♣ opener? You are just trolling now, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel444 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 East might have a balanced 9-12 for their Pass of a 1♣ opener? You are just trolling now, right?I am a troll but i am no trolingmy basic aproch to biding is first and second chair can be light you dont do this with strangerthe basic structure off second chair defenseis pass very bad handdouble 2+ cards in opening suit 14+ HPC any shapeovercall 1 Major 4+cards suit with at least 1 top honor 4+trick NV 5+ trick Vulmay have a longer minor2 ♦ over a minor opening a good 6+ Major around 6-7 loser2♥ over a minor 4+♥ and 5+ ♠ around 6-7 loser2♠ over a minor 5+♠ 8 loser NV 7 loser vul can be a bad suit with no defense in other suit2 NT strong 2 suiter with less then 5 loser every suit is 5+ long over Major opening1NT over major opening SPL in there major 14+point including the void or singleton2 of suit in general a 5+ cards suit with at least 1 top honor not good for double or t/o NT2 of there major a strong minor 6+ long 6- loser2 spade over 1 heart a Good 6+ cards Spade suit 6 loser 2 NT strong 2 suiter with less then 5 loser every suit is 5+ long (not 5 in there Major )3 minor over 1 Major 5+ cards in minor and 5+ in other Major 5-6 loser (stronger hand bid 2NT) that not all but most of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilithin Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 East is third seat - West opened. You moved the thread on from the OP with post #28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel444 Posted September 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 East might have a balanced 9-12 for their Pass of a 1♣ opener? You are just trolling now, right?i edited my post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel444 Posted September 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 East might have a balanced 9-12 for their Pass of a 1♣ opener? You are just trolling now, right?North may have a 9-12 HPC balance with no 4 cards Major Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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