michel444 Posted September 10, 2022 Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 Hi all does anyone familiar with MOSCITO ? does the system legal in BBO ? I know ACBL banned the Forcing Pass System. Michel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted September 10, 2022 Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 I'm quite certain you will find someone familiar with MOSCITO here (as in, wrote at least one book on it). I'll leave the technical side of it to him (them?) On BBO you can play anything the game is happy with. That is (at least) two different things:in the open tables, that's basically "whatever your opponents will sit for". From experience playing Precision, you should *at least* be playing against a set partnership; if the opponents are playing pickup, one of them at least will leave, as will their replacement, as will *their* replacement - and then the person willing to play against this will leave because they're not having fun either. I would also host the table myself, and put a table note and a warning that you are playing MOSCITO.A sanctioned game is governed by the regulations of the sanctioning body (or their sanctioning body). VACB games (Virtual ACBL club games) are on whichever of the ACBL convention charts their game usually is at; the BBO ACBL club (note, not tournament) uses ACBL Open; ACBL regionals at home use the relevant chart based on the class of the regional game being played; EBU clubs use their rules; Reynolds events use their rules; the Czech game I used to play in with my Precision partner used their rules,...semi-set or set games (like team games, or weekly hangarounds, or my friends "4-8 people a day for 20 boards 1900MT" game) will use the rules of the game setter or the ones agreed on by the regular participants.As far as MOSCITO in the ACBL is concerned - well, there's a reason that transfer 1-level *openings* are banned throughout (except for 6+board Open+ events, and there's "defence" issues with those). I'll leave it to others to discuss what that reason is. And yes, Forcing Pass systems are banned in all ACBL competition (probably okay in the Midnights, if the director never finds out the opponents are okay with it. But the Midnights are a Strange Breed). But then again, they are basically banned throughout all competition, except only (severely) restricted in Vintage the absolute top levels of World Championship play and in Australia). But if you can host a table in the open room and find opponents that are okay with it, BBO's policy is "fine by us." Same goes for FP (but I bet you'll have even less luck finding "fine by us" opponents). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel444 Posted September 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2022 I'm quite certain you will find someone familiar with MOSCITO here (as in, wrote at least one book on it). I'll leave the technical side of it to him (them?) On BBO you can play anything the game is happy with. That is (at least) two different things:in the open tables, that's basically "whatever your opponents will sit for". From experience playing Precision, you should *at least* be playing against a set partnership; if the opponents are playing pickup, one of them at least will leave, as will their replacement, as will *their* replacement - and then the person willing to play against this will leave because they're not having fun either. I would also host the table myself, and put a table note and a warning that you are playing MOSCITO.A sanctioned game is governed by the regulations of the sanctioning body (or their sanctioning body). VACB games (Virtual ACBL club games) are on whichever of the ACBL convention charts their game usually is at; the BBO ACBL club (note, not tournament) uses ACBL Open; ACBL regionals at home use the relevant chart based on the class of the regional game being played; EBU clubs use their rules; Reynolds events use their rules; the Czech game I used to play in with my Precision partner used their rules,...semi-set or set games (like team games, or weekly hangarounds, or my friends "4-8 people a day for 20 boards 1900MT" game) will use the rules of the game setter or the ones agreed on by the regular participants.As far as MOSCITO in the ACBL is concerned - well, there's a reason that transfer 1-level *openings* are banned throughout (except for 6+board Open+ events, and there's "defence" issues with those). I'll leave it to others to discuss what that reason is. And yes, Forcing Pass systems are banned in all ACBL competition (probably okay in the Midnights, if the director never finds out the opponents are okay with it. But the Midnights are a Strange Breed). But then again, they are basically banned throughout all competition, except only (severely) restricted in Vintage the absolute top levels of World Championship play and in Australia). But if you can host a table in the open room and find opponents that are okay with it, BBO's policy is "fine by us." Same goes for FP (but I bet you'll have even less luck finding "fine by us" opponents).Thank you very much ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted September 11, 2022 Report Share Posted September 11, 2022 FWIW, Atul and I can oft be found playing MOSCITO on Sundays, 11:30 AM Set game against BrianM and one of his partner's Can't claim that this is the best bridge that you've ever seen, but it is people playing MOSCITO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel444 Posted September 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2022 FWIW, Atul and I can oft be found playing MOSCITO on Sundays, 11:30 AM Set game against BrianM and one of his partner's Can't claim that this is the best bridge that you've ever seen, but it is people playing MOSCITOjust see message Replay now we are in diferent time zone will try find you on BBO michel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel444 Posted September 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 moving her my anser about standart from thread on probality of openingPaul Marston write in the end of his note on Moscito 2005"I developed a relay system that I played withMalcolm Sims in the New Zealand team in thelate 70s. Around this time I approached RoyKerr about solving the relay problem. He puthis considerable weight into the project andcame up with symmetric relay, which remainsthe engine of our relay approach.Around 1980 Sims and I adopted a forcingpass style. "In the 15 years that have followed, the systemhas gone through radical change and manypeople have made contributions. They includeRichard Willey, Bob Richman and MatthewThomson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 And of course, one of those "many people" just invited you to watch him play. I did mention there are people on these forums that have written books on this system... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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