Extreme freak

[AL78]

Here is an extreme board partner and I got on the wrong side of:

 

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I was East. I thought about a simple overcall but in the end decided to try and shut out the spade suit. It didn't work. Partner doubled thinking she had a couple of club tricks and a heart trick not knowing we had a nine card side fit so two tricks aren't likely to stand up. A shared bottom with one other pair. If partner doesn't double it is a shared second from bottom so it made little difference. Everyone else was allowed to play in 5♥ or 6♥, a few making 12 tricks (including the one pair doubled in 6♥).

[apollo1201]

Your 4H call is well thought. Not much defense, and a 74 shape at green with AK in the suit are more than enough.

 

The rest is a bit unlucky (if S doesn’t bid, N will) but partner’s X was definitely sporty, it is not guaranteed that a H is cashing. And at green, you might not even have the HA.

 

If lots of pairs were allowed to play 4 or 5H, the level of the game at your club is not extremely high. Wether S or N bids, the other owes him 1 more trick when your side competes at 5H. The par is probably 6HX-1 at IMPs for sure and probably at MPs too.

[Cyberyeti]

If partner bid 5♣ rather than 5♥ you might well take the save instead. It really should show heart support as well.

[AL78]

If partner bid 5♣ rather than 5♥ you might well take the save instead. It really should show heart support as well.

 

That is a good idea, after a pre-empt a new suit response in competition is a fit non-jump which alerts the pre-emptor to any big double fits.

[mikeh]

That is a good idea, after a pre-empt a new suit response in competition is a fit non-jump which alerts the pre-emptor to any big double fits.

Most experts would play 5C as simply lead-directing, rather than necessarily showing length as well as high cards. Once partner overcalls 4H, I’d say the chances of a heart cashing are no better than 50%. Overcaller hasn’t denied 8 hearts! And f only 7, the remaining hearts will often be 0-2….I’d not worry about partner not holding the Ace when I have the queen, unless h3 has 8 in which case we definitely don’t want a heart lead.

 

South’s 4S was a bit strange…it requires an understanding partner to bid on a 5 count and a Jack high six card suit, but north can’t pass 4H with 4=7.

[bluenikki]

Most experts would play 5C as simply lead-directing, rather than necessarily showing length as well as high cards. Once partner overcalls 4H, I’d say the chances of a heart cashing are no better than 50%. Overcaller hasn’t denied 8 hearts! And f only 7, the remaining hearts will often be 0-2….I’d not worry about partner not holding the Ace when I have the queen, unless h3 has 8 in which case we definitely don’t want a heart lead.

 

South’s 4S was a bit strange…it requires an understanding partner to bid on a 5 count and a Jack high six card suit, but north can’t pass 4H with 4=7.

"Seven-four: bid some more" applies to east as well as north.

[Cyberyeti]

Most experts would play 5C as simply lead-directing, rather than necessarily showing length as well as high cards. Once partner overcalls 4H, I’d say the chances of a heart cashing are no better than 50%. Overcaller hasn’t denied 8 hearts! And f only 7, the remaining hearts will often be 0-2….I’d not worry about partner not holding the Ace when I have the queen, unless h3 has 8 in which case we definitely don’t want a heart lead.

 

South’s 4S was a bit strange…it requires an understanding partner to bid on a 5 count and a Jack high six card suit, but north can’t pass 4H with 4=7.

 

We actually play it mainly lead directing (although it usually in my experience happens to have length), but FNJ is also a legit use.

[P_Marlowe]

They did well to get to 5S, and I would have let them play there, from your comment the X did not change the

final score much.

I am not sure, I would have found the 4S bid, if North bids 5D, you will be able to play 5H most of the time.

 

Next board.

[michel444]

I don't think i will bid 4H over 1♦

i think a 2♦ showing a 6 cards major suit is more my style

now LHO is not sure what to do you partner should bid 2 ♠ pass or corect to 3♥