thorvald Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Balancing when playing with a robot is dangerous [hv=pc=n&s=s76hk3d983cakqj93&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=p1c1ddp2c2dpp]133|200[/hv] Even vulnerable I think most of us will bid 3♣. 2♣=5+♣, 11-15 HCP, 12+ total points And now 3♣ is defined as 6+♣, 15- HCP and 17+ total points Now partner has the following hand [hv=pc=n&n=sq942haq82dt76c62]133|100[/hv] and bids 3♦ showing 7+ HCP and 8 total points. I bid 3N just hoping for the best and went down 6 vulnerable - ouch Now in the replay (It was a robot challenge) my opponent did even worse [hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7CHuman%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C4S76HK3D983CAKQJ93%2CSKT3HJ6DAKQ542CT5%2CSQ942HAQ82DT76C62%2CSAJ85HT9754DJC874%7Csv%7CN%7Cah%7CBoard%202%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7CMinor%20suit%20opening%20--%203%2B%20%21C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C1D%7Can%7COne-level%20overcall%20--%205%2B%20%21D%3B%208-17%20HCP%3B%209-19%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CD%7Can%7CNegative%20double%20--%204%2B%20%21H%3B%204%2B%20%21S%3B%205%2B%20HCP%3B%206%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7C5%2B%20%21C%3B%203-%20%21H%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%2011-15%20HCP%3B%2012%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C2D%7Can%7C6%2B%20%21D%3B%2017-%20HCP%3B%2012-19%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3C%7Can%7C6%2B%20%21C%3B%203-%20%21H%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%2015-%20HCP%3B%2017%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3D%7Can%7C4%2B%20%21H%3B%204%2B%20%21S%3B%207%2B%20HCP%3B%208%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3H%7Can%7C6%2B%20%21C%3B%203%20%21H%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%2015-%20HCP%3B%2017%2B%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C4H%7Can%7C5%2B%20%21H%3B%204%2B%20%21S%3B%207%2B%20HCP%3B%208%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C5C%7Can%7CCue%20bid%20--%206%2B%20%21C%3B%203%20%21H%3B%201-3%20%21S%3B%2015-%20HCP%3B%20%21CA%3B%20no%20%21SA%3B%2017%2B%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C5H%7Can%7C2%2B%20%21D%3B%205%2B%20%21H%3B%204%2B%20%21S%3B%208%2B%20HCP%3B%20no%20%21DAK%3B%208-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CSQ%7C]399|300[/hv] Only way out is 4♣ I think that in this sequence North should have at least (9)10 HCP / Total points to GF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBengtsson Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 3♣ is a slight overbid imo, but I say with a human partner that - I hope - is where the contract will end. Robot sees differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Does this mean that your fundamental problem with GIB is that you don't like the bidding system that it uses and you want the developers to change it to something more to your liking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorvald Posted August 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Does this mean that your fundamental problem with GIB is that you don't like the bidding system that it uses and you want the developers to change it to something more to your liking? No I am just pinpointing areas, where the Robot bids to much, and a hand that have passed once and then is balancing, will not justify a raise by 8 total points. I am trying to be loyal to the bots system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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