1H:(1NT):2NT

[david_c]

How do you interpret the 2NT bid in the sequence

 

1♥ : (1NT) : 2NT ?

[helene_t]

According to Mike Lawrence it's a game forcing two-suiter. That makes sense.

[P_Marlowe]

According to Mike Lawrence it's a game forcing two-suiter. That makes sense.

Hi,

 

never thought about it, but it makes sense.

 

Marlowe

[Finch]

Yes, game forcing 2-suiter.

Just like 1NT x (penalties) 2NT

[Chamaco]

I think I remember reading somewhere to use 2NT (over a natural 1NT overcall) as a forcing raise, basically using 2NT as a "cuebid".

 

But maybe I am just dreaming: is there anyone using such approach?

[joker_gib]

I think I remember reading somewhere to use 2NT (over a natural 1NT overcall) as a forcing raise, basically using 2NT as a "cuebid".

 

But maybe I am just dreaming: is there anyone using such approach?

You're not dreaming, Mauro ! B)

 

It can represent a good raise based on distribution (not HCP because with that you would have X 1NT)

 

Alain

[inquiry]

I think I remember reading somewhere to use 2NT (over a natural 1NT overcall) as a forcing raise, basically using 2NT as a "cuebid".

 

But maybe I am just dreaming: is there anyone using such approach?

Well, I like the Robson/Segal approach here (hope I get this one right).

 

1M - (1NT) - ?

• 2♣ = both majors, often with just tolerance for partners major
  
• 2D = sound raise to 2M or BETTER
  
• 2M = weakish raise of the major -- see 2♦
  
• 2OM = not forcing, no fit or especial tolerance (see 2♣ if you have tolerance for partners suit
  
• jumps = fit jumps or preemptive
  

This scheme of theirs leaves you with 2♦ to include forcing hands, you can simply bid something new over partners 2M rebid. Why not double with big fit? They will not stay there. I save the double for good hand without fit. Now they have less likely chance to find a place to run. So what is 2NT?

 

Logically in this scheme you can play 2NT as one of three options. First, as lebenshol. a suit of your own (like clubs or diamonds), no fit, and weak (if strong with no fit you would double). It is best not to bid with a misfit and weak after RHO showed strong hand behind your partner. The second option is as a strong one suiter (since jumps are fit jumps), but then, double with such hands make more sense. The third option is as strong two suiter, but once again, double makes more sense, at least to me. So that leaves 2NT as a very good M raise and potential psyche exposing bid. This is how I play this bid.

[Double !]

I finally understand the bidding, I think: assuming that P opened 1M, rho overcalled 1NT (natural), and it's now my bid, I play something that is easy on the memory. I basically respond as though partner had opened 1NT. To wit: 2C = stayman, 2D is transfer, 2H is transfer, etc so that 2NT can be whatever you decide you want it to mean.

Hey, if you're going to play FOC (Front Of Card) when opps interfere over your 1NT bid, why change things because they bid the NT instead of you?

[luis]

A forcing game hand that can't or don't want to double 1NT because 1NTx won't be a good result for our side.

Usually a two suiter as you mention but can have other variations.

[Guest Jlall]

agree with luis

[pigpenz]

seems pretty obvious thats is a real strong two suitor epsecially since there is no know fit for the other side could be ♣/♦ or maybe ♦/♠

[cab]

No one seems to have considered the possibility that the NT overcall was psychic. Although the comical NT and the Gardener NT overcalls are not allowed in ACBL tournaments (wrongly, IMHO), a player might still psyche such a call if there is no partnership agreement. This happened to me years ago in the LM pairs. I bid my 2NT, and my expert partner (my wife--just ask her!) ended up passing me out under game. Of course, my RHO had an escape suit.

[Guest Jlall]

if its a psyche you just X

[pigpenz]

all I know playing in an indi yesterday i had the following hand:

[hv=s=sxxhktxxxdcaqjxxx]133|100|[/hv]

 

auction:

1♦ pass 1♠ 2NT

 

partner bid diamonds all the way to the 4 level with a stop at 3NT doubled on the way to 4♥ doubled :D