pilun Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Our 1♥ opening = 4+♥, not 4♠s, 11-15 pts. 1♠ is then an 11+ shape-ask 1♥ - 1♠ 1NT : 4+♦, unbalanced2♣ : balanced2♦ : ♥ >= ♣2♥ : ♣ > ♥2♠+ : 6+♥ That works fine, won't change that. Now consider 1♥ - (no) - 1♠ - (2♣) Relay is intact after the overcall and Square, so pass : 4+♦, unbalancedX : balanced2♦ : ♥ >= ♣2♥ : ♣ > ♥2♠+ : 6+♥ Easy enough but a bit silly. Fancy bidding 2♥ with 5+ in the overcalled suit!Apart from that, you will miss most penalties.Better is to swap the minors in this particular auction.We normally show suits and shortages top down, (♠>♥>♦>♣) which works fine in most auctions.A swap here would produce pass : 4+♣, unbalancedX : balanced2♦ : ♥ >= ♦2♥ : ♦ > ♥2♠+ : 6+♥ which is clearly superior.Responder can relay with double over the club-showing pass, aware that opener might pass.If not prepared for that, asker would jump or cue instead. The same would apply after our 1♦ opening, which shows spades 1♦ - (no) - 1♠ - (2♣) Only the 2♣ overcall requires the swap. No swapping needed after a strong club, or other openings.So it would be very rare and a genuine memory strain. Is it worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 Now consider 1♥ - (no) - 1♠ - (2♣) Relay is intact after the overcall and Square, so pass : 4+♦, unbalancedX : balanced2♦ : ♥ >= ♣2♥ : ♣ > ♥2♠+ : 6+♥ Easy enough but a bit silly. Fancy bidding 2♥ with 5+ in the overcalled suit!Apart from that, you will miss most penalties.Better is to swap the minors in this particular auction.You could also try pass : 4+♦, unbalanced OR C > H...X = relay......P = C > HX : balanced2♦ : ♥ >= ♣2♥ : ♣ > ♥ not used!2♠+ : 6+♥ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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