slow play in tourneys

[dogsbreath]

Hi

..despite the best efforts of Tds, tournament play is still painfully slow.

I know that searching for subs is a contributary factor, but not the sole reason..

 

I think that a contributary factor is players immediately use of 'Movie' on completion of a hand.. delaying action on the next.. evidence is the frequent long delays before bidding starts on 2nd board of a set..

..how about greying-out 'Movie' button till the round complete? (on a per-table basis ideally)

 

Rgds Dog

[bearmum]

sounds like a good idea to me :blink:

[jillybean]

I don’t like the idea it would make detecting irregularities difficult during the tournament, at times you do need to review the hand immediately. Most people will be viewing the movie during the wait period between rounds not at the start of the next hand, I think any overall improvement in time would be miniscule.

 

Just for interest, how long do people wait between rounds in “live” bridge? (I don’t belong to a club)

 

jb

[scoob]

perhaps make the movie button optionally unavailable during the auction only

[badderzboy]

The movie button could be greyed out for players only so TDs / Kibs could look.

 

To answer Jillys question, normally a minute or two (playing 7 minsish a board) unless you are unfortunate to follow the 'slow' pair and can seem an eternity.. think of golfers with a slow pair in front - unfortunately you can't play through...lol

 

Steve

[jillybean]

or an automatic "slap" when a player does not bid quickly enough :P

[Cascade]

Just for interest, how long do people wait between rounds in “live” bridge? (I don’t belong to a club)

Timing for rounds in club play / local tournaments varies.

 

Here we typically get 6.5-7 minutes per board for 2 board rounds. In other places 7.5 minutes per board is more normal.

 

There are lots of overheads on this time in normal club play that do not apply in online tourneys.

 

1. You have to physically move from table to table

 

2. You have to count your cards

 

3. You have to keep track of the tricks

 

4. You have to fill in the score card

 

I would think that a 7 minute face to face board would equate with something less than a 6 minute online board. I think that 7 minutes per board is reasonably fast but most face-to-face players here seem to cope with that.

 

I normally give 8 minutes per board for online play. I consider that this factors in some time for connection issues. That is without connection issues you need to play quite slowly to just complete a board in 8 minutes.

 

There certainly are a significant minority that play way too slowly on BBO. Some of these are often repeating offenders. I use the player note facility to make notes on this for individual players.

[bearmum]

Just for interest, how long do people wait between rounds in “live” bridge?  (I don’t belong to a club)

 

jb

at our local club ( which has a BIG percentage of retired folk some of whom can't move quickly at all) a 2 board movement is 13 mins and a 3 board is 19 mins and only if following a REALLY slow pair do you get held up -- and the directors are penalising the "ablebodied" but awfully slow pairs (who deliberately bid and play slowly to try to get good scores)

[hotShot]

The rules give 8 minutes/board including picking u cards and writing the result. So online 7-8 Minutes should be fine. There are always some slow players, that would need even more time than that. They often benefit from fast opponents so that they can finish some rounds in time, but if they meet another slow pair they won't finish the round at all.

 

I'm usually a fast player, meaning that i have to wait about 5 minutes each round at 2 boards/round or 8 minutes at 3 boards/round. I have no problem with that, i can read the forum during that time.

 

I think the TD's need the time so they can make a ruling if neccesary.

[barmar]

There seems to be a common misconception that online bridge play should be faster than f2f. In my experience, it seems to be just the opposite. One reason seems to be that many players are more reluctant to claim as early as they might in f2f. There are also often distractions (which includes the aforementioned Movie button) and interruptions that don't occur as much in clubs/tourneys. Finally, sometimes you'll sit there for several minutes waiting for a red dot on another player to clear -- players don't usually fall asleep at the bridge table (although there are occasionally times when it seems like it, because someone doesn't realize it's their turn to bid or lead).

 

Standard timing in ACBL tourneys is 7-7.5 min/board, so the usual 8/bd on BBO should normally be sufficient.

[lukasz]

Here we typically get 6.5-7 minutes per board for 2 board rounds. In other places 7.5 minutes per board is more normal.

I would be great, if TD could add one minute (special +/- button)

to the round (with special spinedit or "+" button), not only for the table

(3-rounds tourneys can have 21, 24, 27 minutes - no 20 or 25).

[mink]

...how about greying-out 'Movie' button till the round complete? (on a per-table basis ideally)

It would be sufficient that the main window is moved to the foreground and the movie window is moved to the background when a new round starts. I would dislike the opportunity to access the movie while I play, because there are frequent opportunities to do so while some opp is red or thinking. With sound on, it is no problem at all to notice when it is your turn.

 

Karl