cencio Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 [hv=pc=n&s=skjhaqj987dcakjt9&w=st8653ht4dk7cq842&n=s974hk6dqt532c653&e=saq2h532daj9864c7&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=p1d]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 Too strong for 1♥, not the right shape (an extra heart) for 2NT ♥+♣. So double it is. And partner will probably pass - disaster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 Too strong for 1♥, not the right shape (an extra heart) for 2NT ♥+♣. So double it is. And partner will probably pass - disaster! I'd bid 2N anyway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali quarg Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 Ditto & rebid ♥ over ♣ to show the strength & extra length Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw64ahw Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 Playing the cue bids in The Overcall Structure 2♦ shows the touching suits and is unlimited, but time to decide on agreements. https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.bridgewebs.com/ocala/Roman%2520Overcalls%2520etc.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjg6Za91IX4AhU0olwKHYySACsQFnoECAcQAg&usg=AOvVaw18sQRft6Cp7_5dqifVnCEu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 continuing unopposed NS, 2N 3C 3H 4H. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akwoo Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 I agree with 2N, but I think 4H over partner's 3C bid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 Better hope partner doesn't jump to 5♣, or the opponents don't jump to 4♠/5♦. 2NT has serious downsides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL78 Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 Better hope partner doesn't jump to 5♣, or the opponents don't jump to 4♠/5♦. 2NT has serious downsides. Opponents can do that over a double and you are even worse off as you have failed to show either of your suits, and as you say, it is far from ideal if partner converts the double to penalties. If you are not going to use a two suited convention with a hand like that just because it isn't perfect, you might as well take it off your convention card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 Better hope partner doesn't jump to 5♣, or the opponents don't jump to 4♠/5♦. 2NT has serious downsides. If partner jumps to 5♣ I'll bid 6 and hope I don't make 7. If you double, how are you going to enjoy the auction 1♦-X-4/5♦-4/5♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenikki Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 Too strong for 1♥, not the right shape (an extra heart) for 2NT ♥+♣. So double it is. And partner will probably pass - disaster!If partner will pass a takeout double with only five trumps, it is difficult to conduct *any* defensive auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 If partner will pass a takeout double with only five trumps, it is difficult to conduct *any* defensive auction. So where do you want to play opposite partner's 4414 ? Either 1♦ is going off or you are most of the time. If you bid 1♠ partner will be 3415 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 If partner jumps to 5♣ I'll bid 6 and hope I don't make 7. If you double, how are you going to enjoy the auction 1♦-X-4/5♦-4/5♠5♣ is weak, not strong. Something like ♠xx, ♥xx, ♦xxx, ♣Qxxxxx. But you've convinced me that 2NT is better, despite the extra heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 5♣ is weak, not strong. Something like ♠xx, ♥xx, ♦xxx, ♣Qxxxxx. But you've convinced me that 2NT is better, despite the extra heart. Partner doesn't have to have a second heart even though the finesse is likely to be on, and I wouldn't rule Axx, x, xxx, Qxxxxx out, 2N is much more likely to be weak than strong (and for us never in between), so just bid 5♣ and let them guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenikki Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 So where do you want to play opposite partner's 4414 ? Either 1♦ is going off or you are most of the time. If you bid 1♠ partner will be 3415It seems to me this is Defensive Bidding 101. You bid 1♠ in tempo, and partner apologizes if it works out badly. Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas43 Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 I'd bid 2NT then 3♥ if partner advances with 3♣. That must show a big 6-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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