pmacfar Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 [hv=d=w&v=e&s=shxdjxxxxxcaxxxxx]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] In my duplicate game last night (Monday) sitting East I picked up the above hand and bidding goes as follows: 2♠ - 2NT - ? What is your bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Clearcut pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 i'm assuming that 2nt over call is for the minors, in which case i'm passing if it's some kind of big hand, i'm in 4♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 2N overcall of weak 2 is typically about a strong 1N openerSince 1/2 my pard's hand is probably worthless to my hand, this is not a time to interfere. Whatever contract the opps get to... BOY ARE THEY IN FOR SOME BAD BREAKS :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Pass, always. Be happy they did not start doubling. Marlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Pass (misread the problem first) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 i'm assuming that 2nt over call is for the minors, in which case i'm passing if it's some kind of big hand, i'm in 4♣ A direct 2NT overcall is normally 15-18 balanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Clearcut pass couldnt have said it better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Clearcut pass couldnt have said it better I could.. "Grateful pass", Since they have more spades than we do, and we are RED and they are white. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 i'm assuming that 2nt over call is for the minors, in which case i'm passing if it's some kind of big hand, i'm in 4♣ A direct 2NT overcall is normally 15-18 balanced oh. that i might leave alone. maybe. depending on level of sobriety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 pass, 2 suiters can't be shown opposite a preemptive. You have to assume it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearmum Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 PASS any other bid is just looking for trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Pass of course ! what else ??? :rolleyes: Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Pass of course ! what else ??? :rolleyes: Well, you could try 4NT for the minors, hoping to that it is a good save against their practically certain 4♥/3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmacfar Posted June 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Well, you could try 4NT for the minors, hoping to that it is a good save against their practically certain 4♥/3NT. I agree that with partner and I having 10 - 14 points, opps have game, having played with partner only a few times I tried to steal the hand by bidding 4♣. Unfortunately, partner took it as Gerber (NOT - that was partner's lesson for the night), and you know the rest of the story..... B) Kibitzing after the hand, I should probably have bid 4♦, then I could bid 5♣ and partner could correct to 5♦. Partner had 1 club and Axx in diamonds. I believe that 5♦ only loses a heart and one or two diamonds, making or only down 1. Even vuln and X'd, that is better than opps making game. (clubs were 4-2, with RHO having the 4, so the Ace covers partners singleton and three cross-ruffs sets up two long clubs in hand. Partner's diamond spot cards were like 98 or 97, good for over-ruffing or forcing high roughs by opponents) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Well... if I know pard may take 4C or 4NT as gerber or blackwood, I sure will bid some nr. of diamonds followed by 5C B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Well they certainly weren't the colours to be messing around with. Anyone at favourable bidding 3♥? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Pass of course ! what else ??? :P Well, you could try 4NT for the minors, hoping to that it is a good save against their practically certain 4♥/3NT. save? i don't consider this a good time to try to "save" anything... normally at these colors you aren't gonna find partner with the cards you need to keep you out of -500, minimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Well, just because you're at 'red' it doesn't mean you can't take a save. It sure doesn't seem you can go more than 500 down (even if pard has a 6-4 major), and you can easily go for less. Though I agree the risk of a bad score is much higher at matchpoints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Well, just because you're at 'red' it doesn't mean you can't take a save. It sure doesn't seem you can go more than 500 down (even if pard has a 6-4 major), and you can easily go for less. Though I agree the risk of a bad score is much higher at matchpoints. What? Try playing 5♦ with partner having ♦Qx ♣x in the minors on a trump lead or switch and one of the 2 minors breaking 4-1. Even worse, you were beating 4♥. (♠A led, spade ruff, ♣A, club ruff or trump promotion)... Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Bidding is really a crap shoot. Sure, you might catch pard with a 4 card minor, but that doesnt mean you have 11 tricks. If its a total misfit - where pard has some kind of 6-4 in the majors, then this hand is a nightmare, and we can go for 1400. Just pass and see what happens. You have an easy lead against 4♥ - and you will be on lead too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Pass. I expect at least two down in 5m. 4♣ would be a fitbid, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Well, just because you're at 'red' it doesn't mean you can't take a save. It sure doesn't seem you can go more than 500 down (even if pard has a 6-4 major), and you can easily go for less. Though I agree the risk of a bad score is much higher at matchpoints. What? Try playing 5♦ with partner having ♦Qx ♣x in the minors on a trump lead or switch and one of the 2 minors breaking 4-1. Even worse, you were beating 4♥. (♠A led, spade ruff, ♣A, club ruff or trump promotion)... Arend Nightmares can obviously happen. The question is how likely they are. I don't think it is that bad a shot to try for a save in 5m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 They can on this deal Nuno, spceially at the 5 level, at least that's what I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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