Stephen Tu Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Uncontested, undiscussed.1H 1nt2c 2s!3nt 4s?? 2s showed better club raise than 3c, aka impossible spade. So what the hell is 4s? 4d would have been kickback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 I guess it would have to be something like a spade void and 7+ clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Uncontested, undiscussed.1H 1nt2c 2s!3nt 4s?? 2s showed better club raise than 3c, aka impossible spade. So what the hell is 4s? 4d would have been kickback.Shortness and 6+ clubs Maybe x Ax Qxxx AJxxxx Possibly even a void Void Kx Axxx Kxxxxxx Definitely a try for 6C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted March 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 How should this be different from say jump to 3s over 2c, or jump to 4s? Or jump to 3s followed by 4s? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 How should this be different from say jump to 3s over 2c, or jump to 4s? Or jump to 3s followed by 4s?That’s the sort of discussion one has with partner after the session. Whatever you think, at the table,the difference should be, the odds are high that he thinks something else. I’m not much help here since in my partnerships we have other uses for 2S, showing clubs in other ways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBengtsson Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 How should this be different from say jump to 3s over 2c, or jump to 4s? Or jump to 3s followed by 4s? Partner is hedging bets after 2♠ to see what you you will bid next? I guess these auctions where 'impossible 2♠ bid' are used are not discussed at length as mikeh said. Could 2♣ be a 3 card suit here? I have not seen any structure myself (although there must be some out there) to what a number of bids after the 'impossible 2♠ bid is used? And what is definition of 3♣ after 2♠: better ♣ raise than 3♣ but how much better, and whether it is limited or distributional? Also, after 1♥ - 1NT - 2♣ - 2♠ what do all the other bids such as 2NT, 3♣, 3♦, 3♥, 3♠, 3NT show? I am guessing myself. As for 4♠ in the actual auction, there is only one way to interpret that: a slam try. Maybe he wants you to now bid 4NT as RKCB for ♣ and have the option of leaving a 5♣ response to play if you feel slam is not there. But then I am guessing again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 "Oh, *****, I forgot 2♠ is artificial!" (and also, apparently, that we bid 1!S not 1NT if we have spades). Or maybe 4♠ is Voidwood. Whatever partner intended, if she expects me to guess right, she's dreaming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1H(5+ cards)P1N(F1)P2CP2S(Gazzilli mix up ? better club raise than 3c, aka impossible spade.) P3N (4!D would have been kickback?) P4S (So what the hell is this? 4!S seems likely to be Exclusion?)]133|100| Stephen Tu asks about this puzzling auctionOn the face of ir, 3N might show ♠ values. And 4!S is still likely to be exclusion[/hv] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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