pgcto Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 I had this hand recently playing against 3 robots https://tinyurl.com/y8qvtu8z where my partner opened 5♣. Since I had 4 winners in the other 3 suits slam looked good - maybe even 7. The bidding note for the robot said 5♦ was a cue bid so I bid it. The robot then passed! My question is how can the robot be programmed so that it passes a cue bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 My question is how can the robot be programmed so that it passes a cue bid? My guess is that some genius decided to program an advanced robot to cue bid at 5 level and then omitted to program the follow-ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 Hi pgcto, welcome to the forum :) This is apparently a bug here, North sees 5♦ as to play while South sees it as a cue. Frustrating, but nothing you can do about it. Mostly GIB will interpret a cue as a cue if it is alerted by GIB as a cue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 The robots don't actually bid based on the descriptions of the bids at all (they're for humans only) - I expect that description comes from some generic rule about high level bids, but no followups to 5 level bids have been programmed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 The robots don't actually bid based on the descriptions of the bids at all (they're for humans only) - I expect that description comes from some generic rule about high level bids, but no followups to 5 level bids have been programmed in. Shows great respect for paying customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 but no followups to 5 level bids have been programmed in.and the robot passes when bids are undefined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 On this hand I don't think the cuebid gives a more illuminating auction so you might as well just bit 6♣. You know that partner can't cuebid and will bid 6♣ anyway. 5♦ also risks a lead-directing double. More generally, it is sometimes a winning strategy just to make a neanderthal leap to the most promissing contract rather than trying to have an intelligent auction. With human partners you normally shouldn't do this since most human partners like to be involved in the auction also instead of having partner mastermind everything, but robots don't have such emotions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgcto Posted February 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 On this hand I don't think the cuebid gives a more illuminating auction so you might as well just bit 6♣. You know that partner can't cuebid and will bid 6♣ anyway. 5♦ also risks a lead-directing double. More generally, it is sometimes a winning strategy just to make a neanderthal leap to the most promissing contract rather than trying to have an intelligent auction. With human partners you normally shouldn't do this since most human partners like to be involved in the auction also instead of having partner mastermind everything, but robots don't have such emotions. I agree, in retrospect, that I wasn't going to get any additional information from the response to the cue bid but it would be nice if the GIB bid matched the description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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