Fluffy Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 When you make an obvious lead against a suit contract simultaneously with partner's final pass, instead of making your obvious lead, you make a lead at random because BBO rearranges the cards to put trumps on tthe left when the bidding finishes. Yesterday night this bug/issue decided who won the spannish national league after 140 deals of play during 6 months this is an issue that has been running for yeards and it is so easy to fix. Here are some solutions: -Forbid leading for 1 second after rearranging-Don't rearrange for the initial lead untill it is not your turn-Don't rearrange if the mouse is over the cards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 -Forbid leading for 1 second after rearranging Maybe 5+ seconds after the final pass? IMHO, ultra quick leads can impart UI although sometimes the bidding demands a certain lead. FWIW, BBO is too busy increasing the card fees for their various games to get to this request anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 Quick leads can impart UI, but 1NT-p-3NT-(10 seconds)p-p-p, for instance, one assumes that the opening leader is using the 15 odd seconds to work on what they're leading. I have learned to keep the mouse *off* the hand when I'm going to be OL. Takes me a couple of seconds to get back to my hand at which point the reshuffle, if it's going to happen, has taken place. But yes, at least there should either be a lock on leading before the switch happens, or an option to not reshuffle the hand (except for dummy) or something - likely various somethings. I'm sorry that it happened in a serious event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 A lock on leading before the switch happens seems by far the most appropriate solution... but some solution certainly should be found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 I look forward to the time when my skills at Bridge improve to the point where thinking is not required.South contends that West had nothing to think about when discarding clubs. How about that? A mind game where thinking is unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionHeart1 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 A very simple solution. Use diagram instead of cards, because it doesn't rearrange the cards. This way I have never had this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 A very simple solution. Use diagram instead of cards, because it doesn't rearrange the cards. This way I have never had this problem.Me too. Also barmar, which might explain why this was never fixed :) I much prefer hand diagram, although I find it difficult to adjust to cards when I go back to face to face or other online platforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Me too. Also barmar, which might explain why this was never fixed :)Don't blame me. I don't program the client, and I'm not involved in prioritizing tasks. But yeah, I don't experience many of the UI problems people complain about because I use diagram mode. It also doesn't have the problem of claims covering the trick count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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