oldoc Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 There are 4000 reported players. You play 4 hands with results that would be considered average in any duplicate session yet your BBO rank is 51,000. Do you have in incognito table with 51,000 players, or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 If you're talking about "Just Play Bridge", then you're likely reading the first number from the "players online" figure. The other players are not online right then; they got their score earlier in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldoc Posted December 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 If you're talking about "Just Play Bridge", then you're likely reading the first number from the "players online" figure. The other players are not online right then; they got their score earlier in the day. NO, I am not talking about "just play bridge." I am referring to "bridge 4." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 That works the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldoc Posted December 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 That works the same way. Then you are also saying that 55,000 individuals played the exact same hands on that same day and 51,000 of them scored better than an average result???? PREPOSTEROUS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 No, I didn't say that at all. The hands are different for everyone. Yes, that means it's a luck of the draw thing whether you get hands that can generate high scores, but that's why people play duplicate games elsewhere on BBO instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldoc Posted December 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 No, I didn't say that at all. The hands are different for everyone. Yes, that means it's a luck of the draw thing whether you get hands that can generate high scores, but that's why people play duplicate games elsewhere on BBO instead. The law of averages does not apply in BBO? I am certain that it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 The law of averages does not apply in BBO? I am certain that it does.I'm not sure what you mean. If you get dealt 4 hands where you can't make any games, even if you play them 100% perfectly for the optimal number of tricks, you will still be extremely low on the leaderboard. All of the players at the top of the leaderboard would have been dealt 4 hands where all have makeable games/slams. If you play enough times, then by the law of averages, yes, you will get the opportunity to get a better score too. If you want to see how many people are on the leaderboard, try bidding 7NTxx on each hand and concede 13 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldoc Posted December 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 I'm not sure what you mean. If you get dealt 4 hands where you can't make any games, even if you play them 100% perfectly for the optimal number of tricks, you will still be extremely low on the leaderboard. All of the players at the top of the leaderboard would have been dealt 4 hands where all have makeable games/slams. If you play enough times, then by the law of averages, yes, you will get the opportunity to get a better score too. If you want to see how many people are on the leaderboard, try bidding 7NTxx on each hand and concede 13 tricks. Done that....70,000+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Right - so it's easily possible that a poor set of hands would rank at 50k even if played optimally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldoc Posted December 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Right - so it's easily possible that a poor set of hands would rank at 50k even if played optimally. Are you saying that each player is given a different set of 4 hands......that my four hands are different from every other player on line? Don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Absolutely - that's exactly how it works. Play it twice back to back - you'll see it in action. The link smerriman posted in #4 makes that clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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