When opps overcall weak NT

[keylime]

Here's a logical extension:

 

Is Leb outdated? Does it need updating?

[Chamaco]

As long as were discussing this, what do you all play a reopening x by responder, ie,

 

1N - pass - pass - 2x

Pass - pass - dbl?

To complete this discussion, how do you play the direct seat opener's double ?

 

1N - pass - pass - 2x

DBL

 

It seems to me that if phil's sequence is for takeout, this one should be for takeout too :-)

[Finch]

Yup, if responder's double is take-out, opener also needs a take-out double.

 

Pairs is a great game. Going for 1100 when the mini-NT-er makes a take-out double is the same zero as conceding 110 when they find a fruity protection.

[luke warm]

To complete this discussion, how do you play the direct seat opener's double ?

 

1N - pass - pass - 2x

DBL

 

It seems to me that if phil's sequence is for takeout, this one should be for takeout too :-)

it's hard for me to imagine many times when this is bid.. if this is takeout it should guarantee 4/4 majors if the overcall is 2m

[Finch]

At pairs, I double as opener whenever I have two low in the suit they have bid. Also on many Hx holdings having opened a strong NT.

 

At teams, it's normal both to be a little more cautious and also to have a slighter more careful eye on the vulnerability, as you are generally only competing the partscore on these auctions.

[flytoox]

Takeout, penalty doubles are an endangered bid, will be extinct soon.

No way penalty dbl will die.

[Al_U_Card]

I play lebensohl and prefer to play that any double directly behind the bidder is penalty (by an unpassed hand or the opener). Any balancing double is the 2 higher remaining suits and bidding the lowest suit shows that suit and a "higher" one. I do think that any agreement, whatever it might be, is miles better than no agreement B)