sceptic Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 [hv=d=n&v=n&n=s5ha985dj742cqj65&w=sqt7h764dkt83cak9&e=sakj2hkt32daq65c7&s=s98643hqjd9ct8432]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South - Pass 1♦ Pass 2NT Pass 3♠ Pass 4♦ Pass 4♥ Pass 5♣ Pass 5♠ Pass 6♦ Pass Pass Pass Hi Can I have your opinions on the 5 spade bid I made please, you can comment on the rest of it if it is worth commenting on, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 5♠ is unnecessary, and unwise. After your partner's limited 2NT response, you are not trying for grand slam here. If you are going to bid the slam (and once you bypass 5♦ you are), just bid it. Making this hand will be difficult. On a spade lead, i think you might always be down. On a club lead, you have to make the wildly unlikely lead of diamond ten pinning the nine at trick two (clearly extremely anti-percentage), and on a heart queen to your king, you have to play very carefully, needing to take diamond hook and ruff a club in your hand requires careful planning. Did you make this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 agree, after 5♣ i'd just bid 5♦.. i have to admit, i'd be at 3nt on this hand so if 6♦ made, well done 1♦ : 2♦2♥ : 2NT3NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted June 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 I had an idea that slam was possible, after the 5 club bid I knew 6 was to be bid, but I was not happy with bidding 5 spades, it is an area, I seem to make the same mistake whilst cue bidding, I am not quite getting it right, but I will get there one day anyway this is how I made the slam, if you have time I would appreciate comments on my play thx http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...19087525-123219 No 7 at the bottom of the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 I had an idea that slam was possible, after the 5 club bid I knew 6 was to be bid, but I was not happy with bidding 5 spades, it is an area, I seem to make the same mistake whilst cue bidding, I am not quite getting it right, but I will get there one day anyway this is how I made the slam, if you have time I would appreciate comments on my play thx http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...19087525-123219 No 7 at the bottom of the list The slam is not that bad. But the actual cards, you would finish down 1 with good defense, say, North didn't cover pd's ♥Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 The slam is not that bad. But the actual cards, you would finish down 1 with good defense, say, North didn't cover pd's ♥Q. While you probably WOULD have finished down one fi the heart ACE had not been played at trick one, the fact is rather you did or not has nothing to do iwth the defense. For when your heart king wins, you always have 12 tricks if you take the correct view. The correct view (hard to take, especially if you think the fellow with the sitff nine of diamonds is up to playing diamond 9 from a number of holdings, including J9xx), is win heart king. Cash one high diamond from hand, cross to club, lead diamond ten... rather covered or not, you will win, 4D, 1H, 4S, 2C, 1C ruff. In a modest game with honest card players, one might find this line I guess, but I woujld beat against getting it right. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 The correct view (hard to take, especially if you think the fellow with the sitff nine of diamonds is up to playing diamond 9 from a number of holdings, including J9xx), is win heart king. Cash one high diamond from hand, cross to club, lead diamond ten... rather covered or not, you will win, 4D, 1H, 4S, 2C, 1C ruff. In a modest game with honest card players, one might find this line I guess, but I woujld beat against getting it right. Ben That is double dummy. But what if South had ♦J9 doubleton? BTW, at ritong's table, ♥K won a trick but still finished down 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 I would have just bid 3nt over 2nt.Assume 2nt was 12-13 balanced hand and does not promise 4D all the time.Worried about duplicated values in Clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 BTW, at ritong's table, ♥K won a trick but still finished down 1. yes, but at this table the ♥K *and* the ♥10 won tricks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Imo the correct play in ♦s is the Ace, and when you see the 9, play south for stiff, double or triple, and hope he didn't falsecard. If he did, congratulate him... This is imo no double dummy play at all. Just need the ♥A onside, or a ♥ lead (not from singleton) B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 I had an idea that slam was possible, after the 5 club bid I knew 6 was to be bid, but I was not happy with bidding 5 spades, it is an area, I seem to make the same mistake whilst cue bidding, I am not quite getting it right, but I will get there one day anyway this is how I made the slam, if you have time I would appreciate comments on my play thx http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...19087525-123219 No 7 at the bottom of the list Slam is not a good idea after 2NT, because you have singleton on partner's suit: 1♦-1NT adn 1♦-2NT has alwyas 4+♣ unless 3343. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Imo the correct play in ♦s is the Ace, and when you see the 9, play south for stiff, double or triple, and hope he didn't falsecard. If he did, congratulate him... This is imo no double dummy play at all. Just need the ♥A onside, or a ♥ lead (not from singleton) B) Come on free.. this is a mandatory false card situaion. Your LHO must drop the diamond nine from several holding (not to mention singleton nine). For instance, with J9, with J9xx, with J9x, with 9xx, with 9x and of course with stiff 9. When he holds J9xx, you have to cash the diamond sceond high diamond from your hand, and hook diamond -- but if singleont diamond, that is wrong. When singleton diamond, you can not lead another diamond from your hand. And if you do lead another diamond from your hand and he plays low, did he have J9xx or 9x? Tis a puzzle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSilver Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 I had an idea that slam was possible, after the 5 club bid I knew 6 was to be bid, but I was not happy with bidding 5 spades, it is an area, I seem to make the same mistake whilst cue bidding, I am not quite getting it right, but I will get there one day anyway this is how I made the slam, if you have time I would appreciate comments on my play thx http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...19087525-123219 No 7 at the bottom of the list Well played! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Come on free.. this is a mandatory false card situaion. Your LHO must drop the diamond nine from several holding (not to mention singleton nine). Obviously it's a mandatory falsecard situation, but there's no legal way to figure out if he did or not. So the only clue you have is frequency. Guess what: 9, 9x, J9, 9xx, J9x is way more frequent than J9xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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