Winstonm Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 [hv=d=e&v=e&s=saj102h4d74caqj853]133|100|Playing with a client, Jeff Meckstroth on your right opens 1H and the auction continues: 1H-2C-2H-3C4H-4S-5H-xP-P-P Before dummy comes down, Meckstroth says to his partner, "I'm sorry. This is all my fault." Get this right and you win the K.O.s; wrong, and it's just another second best on your resume'. What do you lead? Did RHOs comment affect your choice? [/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 ace of clubs...i read nothing into the comment...my reasoning is i have no good lead, we bid and raised the suit, and its an ace against 5H X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritong Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 hi:-)first, i think that meck's remark is based on the fact that he plays w a client, so he takes on himself the possible blame , as his part obviously took a view bidding 5♥. the idea is : during play, take the blame on yourself, then discuss on healthy basis afterwards :) naturally, meck could have waited for the end of the deal to do that :D i admit i am surprised that a pro of his caliber allows himself such human reactions maybe he is not a robot, after allsecond, it seems that the choice is between ♣ace & ♣underlead..i do not see danger concretely, so i do not underlead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritong Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 it could be that dummy has more trumps than expected, and that declarer has a two suiter w ♦, extract trumps, discard ugly ♠s on ♦s , part has ♣king & ♠queen, okay..but in that case, meck has no obvious reason to anticipate the " blame-taking"...hmmm...i think i ll enjoy the end of the story :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingo Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 At the table, I would lead the ace of clubs, but would not be surprised based on the question in this forum, the comment by meckstroth, and the double by partner, if a heart lead is best. without the heart lead a cross-ruff may be in the offing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 It could be that meck held ♥ and ♠ two suiters (6-4, maybe), while pd had ♦s. meck regretted when his pd bid 5♥ where he didn't want to be. To lead trump seems right to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 im a spade leader you helped set up the defense by bidding spades so partner has to be doubling on a spade card....i hope.... :) as to which spade to lead that is another question ....ill go with J♠ catering to partner having kx♠ or kxx♠ and that hell be able to direct the defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 what would you lead without the double? does the double ask you to lead something other than that 'normal' lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 does the double ask you to lead something other than that 'normal' lead? What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Doble ask you to stop risking our score on ridicoulous high level contracts we don't belong to. All leads but a ♠ seem reasonable, but ♣A seems the oen wich retains contrtol of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 I appreciate all the replies so far. Let me pose a proposition, though. Isn't bridge a great deal about deductive reasoning? The greatest proponent of deductive reasoning was the physician who taught Sir Arthur Canon Doyle when the latter was a young medical student. And, of course, Doyle later brought the world Sherlock Holmes. And it was Holmes who once said, "If you eliminate the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." Another time the critical clue turned out to be the failure of a dog to bark. So I'm wondering, what hands could partner hold and NOT (bark) double? If you elinimate those, then musn't the truth be that he holds whatever hand is left? Does this concept alter your choice of leads? Thanks, WinstonM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 My best guess is that my partner doesn't have ♠s (we tried to probe for the double fit and partner refused any further action). This is likely to leave ♦s as his second (or even first) suit. Furthermore, LHO bid 5♥ over 4♠, which inclines me to think that he isn't very long in spades either. So my best guess is that my RHO has ♥s and ♠s. Given this, a ♠ looks obviously wrong. There could be some merit to leading the ♣A, or a ♥ might help, but I actually think I'll try my small ♦, leading through dummy's presumed suit into partner's presumed suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 does the double ask you to lead something other than that 'normal' lead? What do you think? i think it's a matter of agreement :) for me though, i'd lead a club without the double... so i lead my highest diamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 i'd lead a club without the double Is there a concensus that the (standard) double here shows a strong suggestion to defend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 to me it says "i think we can make 5♣, so 5♥, even off 2, will be poor for us unless we double"... of course it can also mean what fluffy said :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 declarer has majors, pd has minors. lead trump and cut ruffing power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Of all the facets of bridge, nothing can improve results more than finding the right opening lead time and time again. Many times it's a guess. Sometimes it's based on expectancy. And sometimes partner draws a roadmap for you if you can read it. You have quite clearly shown an unbalanced black two-suiter; with this vulnerability, it's hard to know who is pushing who around and who can make what. This certainly isn't a forcing pass auction, so partner must be sending a clear message that defending is the right choice. Would he do that with these hands: KxxxxxxxxKxxx QxxxxxxxxKQxx KQxxxxxxxKxxx Nothing clear-cut about these holdings. So what kind of hand would give partner a clear cut double? QxxxxxKQJxxxx QxxxxAKxxxxxx Aren't these the hands that partner almost has to hold for his bidding to make sense? For the record, partner led the club A, allowing declarer to score his Kx, the difference between +500 and +800 My hand? xxxxxxAKxxxxx 4S makes our way, so the +80 wasn't enough. +380 would have done it. So, another 2nd place on my resume'. B) Without the double, the Club Ace is totally reaonable. However, I believe by eliminating the impossible, one can find the right lead on this hand. WinstonM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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