lamford Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 [hv=pc=n&w=sjt54hakt976542dc&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=6spp?]133|200[/hv]This was the wildest board I have ever seen in bridge, and is included today as it was hand-dealt at the table in 1991 by the late Chair of the Woodberry Bridge Club, Winnie Godber, whose funeral was today. It is genuine, as contestants at the Garden Cities of that year will testify. The swings on the board were large and numerous. What is your shout here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 What do we know about North? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 [hv=pc=n&w=sjt54hakt976542dc&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=6spp]133|200| lamford 'This was the wildest board I have ever seen in bridge, and is included today as it was hand-dealt at the table in 1991 by the late Chair of the Woodberry Bridge Club, Winnie Godber, whose funeral was today. It is genuine, as contestants at the Garden Cities of that year will testify. The swings on the board were large and numerous. What is your shout here?'+++++++++++++++++++I rank 1. 7♥ = When in doubt bid one more.2. Pass3. Double.[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 A nagging voice in the back of my mind is telling me that 6♠ is probably not making, and that partner is likely going to lead into one of our voids. Possibly declarer also has a minor suit void, so we could consider cleverly not doubling, in the hope that partner will not lead their long suit into the double void. At the table I would have already bid 7♥. I don't think it's percentage, but hands like this are once in a lifetime and I'm not passing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted September 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 What do we know about North?North would have been a player that represented his club in a national team of eight event .... More we cannot recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 7H may not be right but can never be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 I'm just going to pass. I can't see any way we could throw 4 spade losers to actually make 7♥, while declarer isn't expecting a trump loser in 6♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 At mps I bid 7H.I think 7H has three ways to win and only one way to lose. It wins if it makes, improbable as that is. It wins if they make 6S. While my spade trick will be a disappointment to declarer, his partner might cover his minor loser(s) No way am I going 1700 so if they make, 7H is a fine save North, if looking at a void in hearts, maybe AKQxxxxx void void KQJxx as an example, can’t pass 7H. I know what to do to 7S I lose only if 7H goes down (very likely) and 6S also fails (tough to assess but I think reasonably likely) and they don’t take the push….which is an important consideration. I think it’s close. If I were bidding, I’m bidding in tempo and with no sign of doubt. A slow, tortured 7H is unlikely to goad north into bidding again, which possibility is the deciding factor for me Imps is an interesting and different equation. However, I bid here as well….provided I do so in tempo. I think it even more likely that north takes the push at imps than at mps but only if I act as if 7H is obvious from my hand. Hopefully nobody bid quickly here, so I have a few seconds to gird my loins and bid smoothly. Otherwise I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 Hand-dealt from a new deck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 What do we know about North?https://winniegodber.muchloved.com/ Although Lamford's later comment suggests Winnie Godber was not in fact the dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 I bid because I think 9-card suits should be mentioned at least once in most auctions. Not with a great deal of confidence, although 6S doesn't need to make that often for it to pay off at imps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 What do you call 9-card suits?Trump! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 North would have been a player that represented his club in a national team of eight event .... More we cannot recall. Thanks. Count me in for 7♥ then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1201 Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 When you open 6 something you usually intend to make by yourself or just be -1, and also you believe you won’t be able to scientifically find out if partner brings you the additional trick and not inadvertently blow a grand slam bonus. Maybe at green against red, it is not that much the case? I don’t know… But if that is the case, opener rates to have AKQ to 8 or 9 and void H, plus strong short minors with a small card (AKx(x)(x), AKJx, AQJx…and void or sg A in the other). Why should I be the only one to be 2-suited around the table? I know I have a natural trump trick, but that doesn’t mean partner will score one in a minor. Pass is therefore tossing a coin over that assumption. So I have to bid 7H as confidently as the 6S bid was made. A cheap insurance (I won’t be able to trump or discard all my S on dummy), but cheap save for cheap save, it might induce a 7S bid somewhere, and I’ll know what to bid on that. And partner won’t defend to 8H! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tramticket Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 Winnie will be missed. I have had some interesting encounters over the years. My condolences to her family and friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterAlan Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 Hand-dealt from a new deck?New decks typically come stacked ordered-suit-by-suit, so hand-dealing an unshuffled new pack in the normal way produces 4 symmetric flat 4-3-3-3 hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 New decks typically come stacked ordered-suit-by-suit, so hand-dealing an unshuffled new pack in the normal way produces 4 symmetric flat 4-3-3-3 hands. Not always, I've had a hand dealt hand from a new pack in a teams match where everybody was 6421 with the same pips in the suits. TBF one of my opps noticed this as soon as dummy hit. On a really good/bad day:[hv=pc=n&s=sh98dqjt54cQJ10954&w=sjt54hakt765432dc&n=sakq987632hdcak32&e=shqjdak987632c876]399|300[/hv] 6♠ 7♣ and 7♥ all make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 If this were Bridge in the Menagerie, Victor Mollo would have the Rueful Rabbit land in 7N over 7H and make it because opening leader was void in hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1201 Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 If this were Bridge in the Menagerie, Victor Mollo would have the Rueful Rabbit land in 7N over 7H and make it because opening leader was void in hearts.And W squeezed between his S and H because discarding before N on the run of a long minor in dummy 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 New decks typically come stacked ordered-suit-by-suit, so hand-dealing an unshuffled new pack in the normal way produces 4 symmetric flat 4-3-3-3 hands. Here is the worlds best card 'magician' explaining the f . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted September 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 6S and 7D are cold NS, and 7H is cold EW. Our late and esteemed chair, Winnie Godber (who shuffled and dealt) bid 7H and won about 17 XIMPs. Partner has none QJxx xx Jxxxxxx. The full hand for those interested:http://woodberrybc.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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