AL78 Posted September 14, 2021 Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 This hand is about counting opener's distribution by cashing diamonds after drawing trumps to deduce their minor suit length. The instructive point is that when East (after opening 2♥ and showing up with three spades) discards a heart on the third round of diamonds, their distribution is 3622. Dummy holds ♣KTx and declarer holds ♣Axx, so when declarer cashes the ace and a club honor falls from opener on the right, they are to deduce that they hold QJ doubleton and the correct play is to cash the king, felling the second missing honor card, promoting the ten to the tenth trick. My question is, if RHO is a world class player, could they possibly drop the jack or queen from Hx which would guide declarer into the losing line if they played as BridgeMaster advocates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 14, 2021 Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 Declarer is simply going off if they hang on to the honour so no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted September 14, 2021 Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 My question is, if RHO is a world class player, could they possibly drop the jack or queen from Hx which would guide declarer into the losing line if they played as BridgeMaster advocates?Playing an honor from Qx or Jx would be an example of a Grosvenor Gambit/Coup. Grosvenor gambit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL78 Posted September 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 Playing an honor from Qx or Jx would be an example of a Grosvenor Gambit/Coup. Grosvenor gambit Someone once pulled that coup against me. I had ♥AKJTxx in dummy with no side entries, ♥xx in hand, I was in a spade contract. I took the finesse which held, came back to hand, and took the finesse again, which lost. RHO had ducked holding ♥Qxx. Suckered!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL78 Posted September 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 Declarer is simply going off if they hang on to the honour so no Yes, good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted September 14, 2021 Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 Someone once pulled that coup against me. I had ♥AKJTxx in dummy with no side entries, ♥xx in hand, I was in a spade contract. I took the finesse which held, came back to hand, and took the finesse again, which lost. RHO had ducked holding ♥Qxx. Suckered!!That's not a Grosvenor - ducking with the queen is often a good play in that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 14, 2021 Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 Someone once pulled that coup against me. I had ♥AKJTxx in dummy with no side entries, ♥xx in hand, I was in a spade contract. I took the finesse which held, came back to hand, and took the finesse again, which lost. RHO had ducked holding ♥Qxx. Suckered!! I fell foul of a funnier version of that, I ducked Kx over AQJ to a number in dummy, then discovered declarer didn't have the hand she bid and didn't have any way back to hand and so had to try to drop the K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL78 Posted September 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 That's not a Grosvenor - ducking with the queen is often a good play in that situation. I asked her why she ducked and she couldn't answer, so I don't think they were of a standard where they are familiar with plays like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL78 Posted September 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 I fell foul of a funnier version of that, I ducked Kx over AQJ to a number in dummy, then discovered declarer didn't have the hand she bid and didn't have any way back to hand and so had to try to drop the K Oops, what did your partner have to say about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 I fell foul of a funnier version of that, I ducked Kx over AQJ to a number in dummy, then discovered declarer didn't have the hand she bid and didn't have any way back to hand and so had to try to drop the KThat's the sort of thing we all do once. You only need to start worrying if you do it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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