double jump over take-out dbl

[junyi_zhu]

In fact, I suspect if Justin told us the hands with which he would "preempt" with 3S on this auction, we could as well agree on calling them "invitational with distribution".

 

Arend

I said you could equate it to a preempt but I do not like that definition. It does however show alot of trumps and a smattering of high cards, in that sense it is similar to a preempt. I tend to think Frances and I have the exact same definition for the bid since we both seem to expect partner to bid game on this hand type: trumps/controls.

You can probably call it a constructive raise with long spades. Something like:

SAQxxxx Hxxxx Dxx Cx. Still, playing it to show long spades and invitational has some merrits because if you bid 2S, partner may pass it when he holds 14HCP and 3 spades.

[beatrix45]

B) You should also consider that a cue bid is available to you in this auction. Most people do not play that it is forcing to game, but it is highly invitational. It could be used to handle the hand you had, although, personally, I think you have enough to insist on game. Three ♠ should probably be reserved for hands with a long, self-sustaining spade suit (eg. KQ10954) because partner may have a powerful hand without spades, and you do not want to cut across her intentions.

[Guest Jlall]

I don't understand highly invitational and mildly invitational and invitational. Aren't these all just invitational? If a cuebid is "highly invitational or better" what is invitational supposed to do. Perhaps I'm oldschool (lol) but I learned bridge that there are three types of bids... non forcing, invitational, forcing.

[beatrix45]

I don't understand highly invitational and mildly invitational and invitational. Aren't these all just invitational?

;) Busted again. A lifetime as a courtier in the houses of the rich and powerful sometimes makes me talk like a *****. Still there is a mild distiction. Opposite an unlimited hand, in an auction like 1♠ - pass - 3♠ (forcing to game - not that anybody plays it this way - but is used to be the norm) - pass - 4♣ shows the ace of clubs and says that opener's hand is not bad if slam is in the wind. Mildly invitational.