Winstonm Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 I like your thinking here, Winstonm, however there may be 13 tricks available without partner having any extra value in ♥/♠. 1♠1♥6♦5♣ is c. 70% if partner has stiff ♦ and ♥A and ♣A Yep - never claimed perfection or even best. Just my way. Kx, Axxx, x, AJxxxx could bid 5S over 4S also 🧐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 [hv=pc=n&s=sqt82hq8432d8742c&w=sa54htdakqj96ckq8&n=sk976hj75dt3cjt42&e=sj3hak96d5ca97653]399|300[/hv] Here's the full hand. Winstonm, your partner may not have cooperated over 4♣? We did bid to 6NT, on an auction that could have been better.Cyberyeti, we have 4N available as a Spade cue, if we remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 I think I'm in a grand -1 unless I can make 7N on a double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw64ahw Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 [hv=pc=n&s=sqt82hq8432d8742c&w=sa54htdakqj96ckq8&n=sk976hj75dt3cjt42&e=sj3hak96d5ca97653]399|300[/hv] Here's the full hand. Winstonm, your partner may not have cooperated over 4♣? We did bid to 6NT, on an auction that could have been better.Cyberyeti, we have 4N available as a Spade cue, if we remember.What was the lead on this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 [hv=pc=n&s=sqt82hq8432d8742c&w=sa54htdakqj96ckq8&n=sk976hj75dt3cjt42&e=sj3hak96d5ca97653]399|300[/hv] Here's the full hand. Winstonm, your partner may not have cooperated over 4♣? We did bid to 6NT, on an auction that could have been better.Cyberyeti, we have 4N available as a Spade cue, if we remember.No, but I will still insist on 6 clubs over 5 clubs by bidding 5D This compels partner to cue 5H after which I can bid 5S or simply bid 7 clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 What was the lead on this one?♦T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilithin Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 I think I'm in a grand -1 unless I can make 7N on a double.Is the double squeeze not reasonably automatic just from cashing tricks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 Is the double squeeze not reasonably automatic just from cashing tricks?If north guards hearts and south spades I think the squeeze fails. In the 4 card ending north holds Jxx in hearts and Club J while south holds QI0x spades and Q hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 If north guards hearts and south spades I think the squeeze fails. In the 4 card ending north holds Jxx in hearts and Club J while south holds QI0x spades and Q hearts Nope, cash 6 diamonds and 3 clubs finishing in the diamond hand and A♠ then fixes N. A heart lead breaks this squeeze up, but not sure if there's another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 Now that the hand is known we sit back and wait for someone to give a plausible auction to 7♦ by East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilithin Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 If north guards hearts and south spades I think the squeeze fails. In the 4 card ending north holds Jxx in hearts and Club J while south holds QI0x spades and Q heartsRather than throwing spades, I think the toughest defence is for North to keep the black suits. This causes some entry and timing issues rather than just giving a textbook double squeeze position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw64ahw Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 ♦TIs it just me or is that a strange lead opposite 6NT when one of the opponents opponents have shown long ♦. Anyway you now make 7NT with the squeeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 So this is a compound squeeze starting as a triple squeeze against North. A search tells me that lamford have posted at least two compound squeeze deals on BBF so far this year but I wonder how "common" (measured how?) compound squeezes really are. Maybe we should have a "compound squeeze on BBO" competition? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 So this is a compound squeeze starting as a triple squeeze against North. A search tells me that lamford have posted at least two compound squeeze deals on BBF so far this year but I wonder how "common" (measured how?) compound squeezes really are. Maybe we should have a "compound squeeze on BBO" competition? :) Yup, for those that don't see it, the key to this is the squeeze on the 5th diamond not the 6th. Cash one club and 5 diamonds, N has to keep 3 clubs so can't keep 3 hearts AND 2 spades. If he guards hearts, you just cash out the black winners and in the end game it's a classic double. It's more complicated if N keeps spades. Now you hang on to the 6th diamond and club winners and cash ♥AK to take the idle cards out of his hand. Come back to the other top club and play the 6th diamond. He has to pitch a spade, you pitch a club then cross to the ♣A squeezing S as E has a heart and a spade, W has ♠Ax, N has a club and a spade and S has two spades and a heart and a discard to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 Is it just me or is that a strange lead opposite 6NT when one of the opponents opponents have shown long ♦. Anyway you now make 7NT with the squeezeYes, I agree it's a strange lead. 6/19 pairs bid and made 6NT, one pair made +1 2 3 1440 7.0 27.0 6 NT W 12 S97 13 1440 7.0 27.0 6 NT W 12 C28 15 1440 7.0 27.0 6 NT W 12 S613 6 1440 7.0 27.0 6 NT W 12 S614 8 1440 7.0 27.0 6 NT W 12 S616 12 1440 7.0 27.0 6 NT W 12 DT2 18 1470 0.0 34.0 6 NT W 13 CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 Yes, I agree it's a strange lead. 6/19 pairs bid and made 6NT, one pair made +1 2 3 1440 7.0 27.0 6 NT W 12 S97 13 1440 7.0 27.0 6 NT W 12 C28 15 1440 7.0 27.0 6 NT W 12 S613 6 1440 7.0 27.0 6 NT W 12 S614 8 1440 7.0 27.0 6 NT W 12 S616 12 1440 7.0 27.0 6 NT W 12 DT2 18 1470 0.0 34.0 6 NT W 13 CJ Well the final leader thoroughly deserved the overtrick they conceded, how did the leader of the club 2 get away with that ? It's a horrible hand to lead from, the major suit leads obviously can blow tricks, the diamond lead is passive, depends on the auction what looks attractive. If there's been a heart shortage shown, that lead looks OK. Our auction start would make a diamond lead look totally passive 1♣-2♦-2♥-3♦(I have a diamond suit I'm happy to play in a slam in opposite a small singleton), others might not be so clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 Nope, cash 6 diamonds and 3 clubs finishing in the diamond hand and A♠ then fixes N. A heart lead breaks this squeeze up, but not sure if there's another. I found a lot of squeezes at the table, including some of the secondary ones, but a compound squeeze was outside my abilities to find and execute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilithin Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 I found a lot of squeezes at the table, including some of the secondary ones, but a compound squeeze was outside my abilities to find and execute. This was rather the point I was making. While I would expect the majority of advanced players to find the textbook double squeeze, I think only real experts would find the right line at the table when North keep both black suits guarded. This is the sort of defensive inaccuracy that will not show up in DD analysis but is nonetheless important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 This was rather the point I was making. While I would expect the majority of advanced players to find the textbook double squeeze, I think only real experts would find the right line at the table when North keep both black suits guarded. This is the sort of defensive inaccuracy that will not show up in DD analysis but is nonetheless important. I think they might find it by accident, hope for N to be 5224 in which case it is a double squeeze which they can work out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 late as usual BUT I did not see anyone question what a 1s bid (vs 2d) would have meant by you. What p does NOT BID is just as important as what partner bids in developing a dialog. For EX: (when using XYZ) I have used 1s to be natural and unlimited and I have also used it to show 4 spades and 6+ diamonds and less than invitational and I have never used it as FSF. Knowing what kind of hands I have eliminated when bypassing 1s helps me determine what p is bidding and why. What would 1S have meant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 1♣:1♦1♥:1♠ 4 spades, longer diamonds, I'd expect 6, not forcing. Before we added XYZ, 1♣ 1♦ 1♥ 2♠ was our 4sgf sequence. & yes, what partner doesn't bid can reveal a lot about their hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 No Walsh1♣:1♦1♥:1♠ 4 spades, longer diamonds, I'd expect 6, not forcing.Opener: 13 hcp, 4423Responder: 7 hcp, 4153 1♣-1♦*1♥-? * Or would you respond 1♠ as if playing Walsh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Opener: 13 hcp, 4423Responder: 7 hcp, 4153 1♣-1♦*1♥-? * Or would you respond 1♠ as if playing Walsh? I play a weak nt so opener would open 1nt and I'm passing with 7hcp 4153 If I were playing a strong nt, where are my values? I may bypass the diamonds and bid 1♠, or bid 1nt/1♥I need to see the hand :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 I play a weak nt so opener would open 1nt Sorry, forgot. [hv=pc=n&w=sakt6haj87d73ck75&e=sj742h9dkt642cq43&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1cp1dp1hp?]266|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilithin Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Sorry, forgot. [hv=pc=n&w=sakt6haj87d73ck75&e=sj742h9dkt642cq43&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1cp1dp1hp?]266|200[/hv]I would have assumed a 1♠ response with that unless playing an up-the-line system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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