Winstonm Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 [hv=pc=n&s=skj8h6542dacakq83&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=1cp1d2s]133|200|What now?[/hv] Basic 2/1. 2S is weak. Game is imp pairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw64ahw Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 X with 19 total points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 With preferred partner I would have opened 1NT, which may discredit anything I say further.What does 1♦ show/deny here? [edit: erroneously wrote 2♦ previously] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 With preferred partner I would have opened 1NT, which may discredit anything I say further.What does 2♦ show/deny here? I don't understand the question. Do you mean if responder had bid 2D? If so, it would have been a strongi-ish jump shift along the lines of Soloway jump shifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 I don't understand the question. Do you mean if responder had bid 2D? If so, it would have been a strongi-ish jump shift along the lines of Soloway jump shifts.My apologies, typing in the dark under mosquito attack. Intended 1D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Double. I'm not ashamed of my hand and ee must show the 4 hearts, tiny as they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Can’t answer without knowing methods What do would 2N show here? What would double mean? I play support doubles, but even if in use, some wouldn’t play them after 1D, as opposed to 1M, and some only play them through 2 of responder’s suit. Btw, they’re red v white and I think east has made an unlucky guess or an outright mistake. If double is penalty, this one is easy…and I’m leading clubs, not diamonds If double is not penalty, I pass even if 2N were available, since we have several ways to win and fewer to lose Partner may reopen. We may not have a making game. This hand may play badly for us if partner is weak with almost all hcp in diamonds, and otherwise partner may be bidding….so long as I pass in tempo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBengtsson Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 the big question to ask is what you have bid if east had not bid 2♠??? I think hand is to strong to open 1NT in 2/1 if you are allowed with ♦A stiff. so you open 1♣, partner bids 1♦ and now what? 2♥(reverse) is a very bad bid with garbage suit, so you would have bid 2NT (18-19) ignoring poor 4 card ♥ suit or 1♥as you must always bid 4M at one level. I hope I am playing with partner (responder) who bids 4 card ♥ suit before 5 card ♦ suit but that is down to method and agreements with partner. pass in tempo is an option after opps. bid 2♠ but I respect opps. and their 2♠ bid is not made on all garbage at red. but pass should only be used when you have not another bid available. here you have 2NT. yes I would like to penalise the opps. but partner may not have the hand or the strength to re-open here. 2nt shows your hand. you would not be lying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 2nt shows your hand. you would not be lying...Well, I would be, since it's quite common to play 2NT as artificial here (good/bad). But the real key here is making sure you have a good understanding of what 2NT and double actually show in your partnership. I posted a similar hand (not quite the same decision as this though) on BridgeWinners a little while ago, because I was a little unclear on how people would interpret a double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 To help with some answers - system calls for Walsh style 1 level responses, i.e., majors before diamonds unless strong enough to force. Support doubles but only if the rebid can be at the 2-level. No good/bad 2N used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 My apologies, typing in the dark under mosquito attack. Intended 1D. Walsh style responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 the big question to ask is what you have bid if east had not bid 2♠??? I think hand is to strong to open 1NT in 2/1 if you are allowed with ♦A stiff. so you open 1♣, partner bids 1♦ and now what? 2♥(reverse) is a very bad bid with garbage suit, so you would have bid 2NT (18-19) ignoring poor 4 card ♥ suit or 1♥as you must always bid 4M at one level. I hope I am playing with partner (responder) who bids 4 card ♥ suit before 5 card ♦ suit but that is down to method and agreements with partner. pass in tempo is an option after opps. bid 2♠ but I respect opps. and their 2♠ bid is not made on all garbage at red. but pass should only be used when you have not another bid available. here you have 2NT. yes I would like to penalise the opps. but partner may not have the hand or the strength to re-open here. 2nt shows your hand. you would not be lying... Without 2S I would have rebid 1H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 [hv=pc=n&s=skj8h6542dacakq83&w=s95hkqt9djtct9764&n=stha73dkq865432cj&e=saq76432hj8d97c52&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=1cp1d2s]399|300[/hv] Full hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw64ahw Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 [hv=pc=n&s=skj8h6542dacakq83&w=s95hkqt9djtct9764&n=stha73dkq865432cj&e=saq76432hj8d97c52&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=1cp1d2s]399|300[/hv] Full handWhat happened to the 5♦ rebid by North? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted August 13, 2021 Report Share Posted August 13, 2021 2n practical unless your system says it is not natural. Gives p a chance to bid 3d if all they have is something like KQxxxx diamonds and out. Would not hate 3n. Would prefer x here to be takeout with extra values (not using support x with diamonds). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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