Winstonm Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 I learned to play bridge rather late - around 22 or 23 years old, back in 1973. By 1974 I was playing all the time at San Roque bridge club in Santa Barbara, California where Peter Rank played frequently, and coming home with raging headaches trying so hard to learn the game. What eventually drew me in totally, though, was the idea that if you paid your entry fee, you could play against world champions, national champions, and people whose names were scattered across bridge books. It's like paying a piddling entry fee and getting to bat against Sandy Kofax or box against Mohammed Ali. So, in that spirit, I thought I would make a list of the great players I have had the good luck to have played against - simply because I paid my entry fee. And fellow bridge players, please follow suit and add names from their experience. Here goes mine of the ones I can remember: Sam Stayman - one time in a Dallas regionalOswald Jacoby - once after calling to to a Dallas bridge club, being paired, and showing up to play in a local game. There he was.Mike Passell.Paul SolowayBobby WolffBarry CranePeter WeichselAlan SontagMark LairDr. John FischerKerri ShumanEddie WoldJeff MeckstrothBob HammanMarshall Miles and, of course, Justin Lall PS: Dennis Sorensen, Billy Miller, Peter Rank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 I'd say the biggest names (at least internationally speaking) I've played against would be: Thomas BessisAgustin MadalaKrzysztof MartensAlfredo Versace (though he was actually at the other table) It was looking likely I'd get the chance to play against (and maybe even with) Geir Helgemo, until the Coronavirus started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 The most stellar field I ever played in was the 1999? mindsports olympiad pairs where we qualified for the 24 pair final and finished 12th. In that event we played: Rubin and GranovetterZia and Chemla plus a host of other less well known internationals It also featured a multiple teams event where Zia turned up playing with 3 beautiful ladies who seemed to be beginners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 I've played in the BBL Gold Cup a few times with nige1 as a teammate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1201 Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 I'd say the biggest names (at least internationally speaking) I've played against would be: Thomas BessisAgustin MadalaKrzysztof MartensAlfredo Versace (though he was actually at the other table) Haha I ve played *with* Thomas😉Against as wellBut he is as nice both ways! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 I've played in the BBL Gold Cup a few times with nige1 as a teammate. Polite and pleasant players, I've had the privilege to partner: Bob Rowlands, Hugh Kelsey, Eric Crowhurst, John Matheson, John McLaren, Jacky Patterson, David Liggat, Tom Culbertson, Joe Amsbury, Carolyn Peploe, Elizabeth McGowan, Nicola Smith. Hedy Brown, Laura Cecilia Porro, Stuart Maurice, Michel Lebel, David Mossop, Mike Bell, Tom Townsend, David and Janet Barnes. Bridge is a great leveller. I've also played against most of the top players e.g. Omar Sharif, Rixi Marcus, Terence Reese, Boris Schapiro, Zia Mahmoud, (In the Common Market Mixed Teams Championship, I made a ridiculous 6♠XX against Benito Garozzo :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 Bridge is a great leveller. I've also played against most of the top players e.g. Omar Sharif, Rixi Marcus, Terence Reese, Boris Schapiro, Zia Mahmoud, (In the Common Market Mixed Teams Championship, I made a ridiculous 6♠XX against Benito Garozzo :) One of my proudest moments was a semi psyche against Zia and Chemla which led to me playing in 2♠ undoubled with a 10 card fit and a combined 15 count, this was not a good board for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelicityR Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 One of my proudest moments was a semi psyche against Zia and Chemla which led to me playing in 2♠ undoubled with a 10 card fit and a combined 15 count, this was not a good board for them. One of my partner's (Berneice, an older lady who has since passed away) greatest moments was playing against Tony Forrester and Roman Stolsky(?) back in the 1980s at an EBU Congress. Our team of four (no better than average club players at the time) had won our first match and then was paired against the best young players in England. Tony Forrester is still a regular in the England team partnering Andrew Robson, and has been one of England's best players for many, many years. As I remember we were vulnerable and they were not, and I believe the scoring was slightly different back then, non-vulnerable undertricks were less penalised, and after two passes Tony Forrester opened 1♠ in third position. I had a big hand, equivalent to a 2♣ opener, and I overcalled 2♠ which back then wasn't Michaels but a bid showing a very strong hand. I forget how the rest of the bidding went until the final round but it was frantic as I remember, where Tony Forrester called 6♠, I must have bid at the seven level with a ♠ void, and Roman Stolsky then bid 7♠ as a sacrifice. My partner thought for a minute then called 7NT and that was the end of the auction. I can't even remember my hand but I do remember feeling panic thinking if we go down it's going to be a disaster. Fortunately, my partner had the ♠A and 7NT made. When we'd played our eight or nine boards, we went back to our teammates who immediately asked whether we had bid the grand slam on board x. Yes, we said pleased as punch (happy). However, we still managed to lose the individual match by 18-2 or something like that. Soon after I met my husband and bridge was shelved for my nursing career. I probably have played against some other good players back then however, that particular board became etched on my memory. 7NT against Tony Forrester. That doesn't happen every day of the week :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 Roman Smolski is the guy, and yes it was 100/300/500/700/900 etc at that point. Other fond memories: as a 12 year old playing in the final of the schools pairs, you got a free entry to the easter congress teams, we beat a team containing the Pottage brothers, then beat the guy who ran schools bridge in our county on our way to finishing around 50%. Beating Gold/Townsend etc in the last 16 of the Gold cup before losing to Frances et al in the last 8 the first year they won it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 Joris van Lankveld played at the same club as I in Amsterdam. Phil and Alex from the Scottish team played at my club in Lancaster. I also played against Bep Vriend /Anton Maas at an Easter drive. And Berry Westra and various Dutch juniors. The Icelandic world champs at the pula festival. Sabine Auken at another festival. Garozzo in a JEC match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 I got to play with Grant Baze, as a teammate in a Regional and as his partner for the knockouts, with his client sitting out the second half of each match. I have played several times with Passell as a teammate. Fred Gitelman was on my 2000 BB team. As for opponents,I’ll miss some for sure, but in no particular order: Hamman, Wolff, Soloway, Lawrence, Rodwell, Meckstroth, Zia, Rosenberg, Lauria, Versace, Sementa, Bocchi, Duboin, Fantoni, Nunes, Chagas, Dwyer, Bathurst, Grue, Woolridge, J. Lall, Wold, Bramley, Lazard, Weischel, Sontag, Hampson, Moss, Greco, Fredin, Granovetter, Berkowitz, several Cohens (including Larry and Billy), Lair, Crane, Eisenberg, Ron Anderson, Michael Becker, Garozzo, the Dutch BB team in Veldhoven, when they won (I don’t recall who was in or out), Levin, Weinstein My WC appearances have not been very successful, but we had our moments. We blitzed Lavazza in the Rosenblum round-robin in 2010…and edged them (different lineups) in the round robin in the 2000 BB. We came from behind to beat a team with, iirc, Dwyer, Bathurst and Lall in the round of 32 in a Spingold, where we started the final set down 18, their client on the bench, and me going down 6 vulnerable in 1N…on board one, on vugraph. I could have cashed out for down 4🤪. The comeback started on the second board when one of the pro opps committed a red v white second seat 2H on something like xx Q109xxx Qxxx x,raised to 4H by his partner and doubled in passout seat by my partner, holding in essence nothing but AKJ. I had a good passed hand, and the pro, playing my partner for a key missing card went 1100….the vugraph operator scored it as 800, which was good for the spectators since it meant we won by four (in reality, 8). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 4 of us entered the 2011 Seattle NABC, Women's BAM. I'm not even sure if we were all LM's. Tobi Sokolow, Jill Levin, Jill Meyers, Janice Seamon-Molson, Debbie Rosenberg, Jenny Wolpert, Benedicte Cronier, Sabine Auken, Daniela von ArnimSylvia Moss, Migry Zur Campanile, Jo Anna Stansby, Kerri Sanborn, Shannon Cappelletti, Irina Levitina, Beth Palmer, Lynn Deas, Peggy Kaplan Needless to say, we only needed to purchase one entry for this event but it was exciting and got me wanting to play more. Oh yes, and I have played against MikeH. (not in the same event) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 Barry CraneCraneWhat was it like to play against him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 I found him to be pleasant every time. Excellent declarer. Aggressive opening bids - he liked to stake an early claim to the spade suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 I wasn’t a very good player when I played, several times, against him. I do remember playing in a regional where he was playing on a team with Soloway, Wold, Anderson, and one of (iirc) the Hseih kids…two brothers who in consecutive years became the youngest LM in ACBL history. The kid I played against had NO idea about the game, but his parents bought him a team of superstars. I remember Crane complaining that he had to sit out while the kid played. My other memory of playing against him was when my then partner and I were screwing around with a canapé system, not knowing anything about how to play it. He reached 3N after we opened and we ran our longer suit. He was very pleasant, laughing at the result. My only other memory was getting into the elevator with him. Someone mentioned how many NABC events he’d won, and he added that he’d been second…he gave an exact figure, but I can’t remember it. He had amazing table feel. From what I later read about his bidding methods, they were astoundingly crude, but he believed strongly in getting into auctions on very tenuous values at a time when most good players bid, by his and today’s standards, very conservatively if the opps opened. I’d love to know whether his style would work as well for him today, when ‘everybody’ bids on nothing. Back then, he created far more action than did most experts, and he could read average opponents very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morecharac Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 Jerry Helms, at a small regional near where I now live. In a Swiss Teams match, where we lost by 1 VP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 I wasn’t a very good player when I played, several times, against him. I do remember playing in a regional where he was playing on a team with Soloway, Wold, Anderson, and one of (iirc) the Hseih kids…two brothers who in consecutive years became the youngest LM in ACBL history. The kid I played against had NO idea about the game, but his parents bought him a team of superstars. I remember Crane complaining that he had to sit out while the kid played. My other memory of playing against him was when my then partner and I were screwing around with a canapé system, not knowing anything about how to play it. He reached 3N after we opened and we ran our longer suit. He was very pleasant, laughing at the result. My only other memory was getting into the elevator with him. Someone mentioned how many NABC events he’d won, and he added that he’d been second…he gave an exact figure, but I can’t remember it. He had amazing table feel. From what I later read about his bidding methods, they were astoundingly crude, but he believed strongly in getting into auctions on very tenuous values at a time when most good players bid, by his and today’s standards, very conservatively if the opps opened. I’d love to know whether his style would work as well for him today, when ‘everybody’ bids on nothing. Back then, he created far more action than did most experts, and he could read average opponents very wellWhen I first played against him, he opened 1S in 1st seat with a 4333 11 count made up of 4 queens and the K of spades. Kerri raised to 3 forcing spades with her 17. Simple, but it worked.(due to my misdefense) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 Played with Vampyr once and lived to tell the tale :lol: (She was lovely) also played with Cyberyeti who was also great, unfortunately I was nervous and forgot how to play bridge! Played with Alex (Wank) a couple of times, great guy A few big names in JEC matches as well, but don't really trust any of them in hindsight with his tendency to hire cheats. Although Versace, who is by all accounts a good'un, bidding 7D off the Ace of Diamonds was a good lesson in even the best get it wrong sometimes. And my favourite story, me and my partner Ronnie played the ACOL invitational pairs maybe 2017/2018. Ronnie is one of the nicest blokes you could ever meet, but the bridge is questionable, the system is very limited, i.e. regular blackwood. Anyway we got to the vugraph table against Zia/Bakshi and first board we bid to 6N! .... okay, 7N+++++ is laydown, but still fun against two world class players we bid to a slam in our first vugraph showing :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 I don't think I'd want to box against Muhammed Ali on his worst day. Even if I were young again. :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 I don't think I'd want to box against Muhammed Ali on his worst day. Even if I were young again. :ph34r:I was made for boxing, but instead of teaching me technique and letting me gain experience, they matched me up against those who already had both and I rapidly decided that there must be less painful sports. I did ok at rugby and well at cycling and athletics, but learnt bridge too late and am struggling a bit. Only played against the Italians so far and rarely with my preferrred companion either. Have run up against Duboin, Bocchi, Madala, Sementa, Mortarotti, Ortensi as a player too. The most amusing encounter was against Versace who was as puzzled as I was about my partner's bidding and graciously conceded a top in a national tournament :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrecisionL Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Let me count the players (face-to-face) ..... Fishbein, Zia, Welland, Sabine, Hammond (both), Lawrence, Greco, Hampson, Rodwell (both), Meckstroth (both), Sontag, Helms, Wei-Sanders, Chris Moll, Adam Kaplan, Owen Lien, .... Edited Note: 9/1/21: Fishbein and his partner were NOT playing the Fishbein Convention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Let me count the players (face-to-face) ..... Fishbein, Zia, Welland, Sabine, Hammond (both), Lawrence, Greco, Hampson, Rodwell (both), Meckstroth (both), Sontag, Helms, Wei-Sanders, Moll, Adam Kaplan, Lien, .... You've been busy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Let me count the players (face-to-face) ..... Fishbein, Zia, Welland, Sabine, Hammond (both), Lawrence, Greco, Hampson, Rodwell (both), Meckstroth (both), Sontag, Helms, Wei-Sanders, Moll, Adam Kaplan, Lien, ....Given that Harry Fishbein died in 1976, I guess you’ve been playing even longer than have I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL78 Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 The only big name I know of who I have played against was Frances Hinden in the Hubert Phillips (a mixed teams UK competition) over a decade ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Given that Harry Fishbein died in 1976, I guess you've been playing even longer than have I. I used to play with a guy in OKC who used the Fishbein convention - and now with all the wild preempts it may be time to resurrect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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