jillybean Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 [hv=pc=n&e=sqj2htdak7654c965&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1h?]133|200[/hv] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 I checked my temperature and it appears I'm still alive, so 2♦.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 too much value concentration and the spade stop to consider much else 2d. Axx x Qxxxxx KJx and I am willing to go quietly to my probable doom. Change me to AQx x xxxxxx KJx and double looks a lot better (I will have my apology card ready for display if it does not work). xxx x AKQJxx xxx looks an awful like a 3d bid to me.Amazing just how magical HCP can be. Their value seems to constantly shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 2D. Sometimes you go for 300 or 500 against air - but that is no reason to stop bidding when it is right to do so. Reverse the vulnerability and you have a genuine problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Depends on partnership style, 2♦ or 3♦. Favourable probably 2♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBengtsson Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 I checked my temperature and it appears I'm still alive, so 2♦.. agree. you should not X with weaker unbalanced hands even with stiff/void in opps. suit when another sensible bid is available. 2♦ is sensible though some will bid 3♦ here at white/red. thats partnership style/agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted July 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 2D it is, and it continues..(auction fixed) [hv=pc=n&e=sqj2htdak7654c965&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1h2dp3c3hppxp?]133|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw64ahw Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Personally I would bid the takeout as the priority is to find an 8 card fit. 1NT for me as I play The Overcall Structure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 2D it is, and it continues..(auction fixed) [hv=pc=n&e=sqj2htdak7654c965&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1h2dp3c3hppxp?]133|200[/hv] 4♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1201 Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 1st question is easy. Green, AK 6th and some side goodies. A minimal but normal overcall. If partner next jumps to 3NT, I won’t be ashamed tabling dummy. Now, over the reopening X, 5C would be exaggerate I think, even if partner’s hand is not too well defined at that stage (I guess with 4-cd S suit, they would bid 3S? what strength can we expect?). If we could legitimately hesitate the round before to fit partner over 3H, now I think it it too late to have 2nd thoughts. We could lose 3 tricks depending on partner’s major holdings and C suit (Axx Kxx xx AQJxxx or AKx xxx xx AKxxxx). Comes back again to what can we expect from partner. Easy at MPs and safe choice at IMPs, we’re not even red to consider being lucky or bold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Agreed, 2♦ the first time and 4♣ the second time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBengtsson Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 4♣ bid now. partner will know you are bare minimum for 2♦ overcall as you passed 3♥. west X can never be for penalty here even though there may be a small percentage of hands where north's 3♥ can go down bad (-500/-800). most norths would not bid 3♥ red/white with garbage after partner passes. I expect north to have at least 8 tricks in own hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 [hv=pc=n&e=sqj2htdak7654c965&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1h?]133|200|JillyBean+++++++++++++++++ Depends on partnership style and form of scoring. IMO..1. Pass if 2-level overcalls are sound.2. 2♦ otherwise, at MPs; [/hv][hv=pc=n&e=sqj2htdak7654c965&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1h2dp3c3hppxp?]133|200|JillyBean '2D it is, and it continues. Auction fixed++++++++++++++++++Now, I rank...1. 4♣. Reluctant support.2. 3♦. Economical, reasonable suit.3. 3♥. Good hand in context.4. 3♠. Exaggeration.5. Pass. Might work.[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 West has the strongest hand at the table if north can be trusted. Pass is reasonable but the club fit argues for my bid of 4C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Now, I rank...1. 4♣. Reluctant support.2. 3♦. Economical, reasonable suit.3. 3♥. Good hand in context.3. 3♠. Exaggeration.4. Pass. Might work.[/hv] 3♦ and 3♥ are perhaps excessively economical (though a good way of silencing zealous partner). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 To be honest, I'd have bid on the previous round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Hi, it is either 2D or 3D.Given that we are white vs. red, 3D could be a lot less than we actually got and given partner did not have a chance to speak,I think I am going with 2D.In the followup auction you gave, I am passing, but I would have raised to 4C the round before. It helps a bit, if I know the South player, there are players, I would never go with Pass, and others,where I expect 800+. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 3♦ and 3♥ are perhaps excessively economical (though a good way of silencing zealous partner).Argh, PesceTom! Thank you. :( Good problem, JillyBean.Now, I rank some of the sufficient bids as :) 1. 4♣. Reluctant support2. Pass. Timid3. 3♠. OK, in context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 I checked my temperature and it appears I'm still alive, so 2♦.. This was more of a pulse check rather than a temperature check. Players who would pass don't have a pulse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted July 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 [hv=pc=n&s=skt865hk73dj32ct8&w=s973h852dq9cakq43&n=sa4haqj964dt8cj72&e=sqj2htdak7654c965&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1h2dp3c3hppdppp]399|300[/hv] South has an easy raise of partners opening 1♥. East thought X was penalty, was West too aggressive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted July 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 This was more of a pulse check rather than a temperature check. Players who would pass don't have a pulse.Yes, the temperature check refers more to the players well being after the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKok Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 [hv=pc=n&s=skt865hk73dj32ct8&w=s973h852dq9cakq43&n=sa4haqj964dt8cj72&e=sqj2htdak7654c965&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1h2dp3c3hppdppp]399|300[/hv] South has an easy raise of partners opening 1♥. East thought X was penalty, was West too aggressive?South and East made some mistakes here. North made the biggest one though, with that crazy rebid. West's X is aggressive without shape - the double says "I would like to bid but don't know what", but the question is whether you want to bid at all. The chance partner has a heart stop is small, plus partner was allowed to bid over 3♥ with extras. On the other hand all of West's 11 points are working on offense. I would have passed, trusting that I have already shown my values. In conclusion, all four players seem to have messed up. Quite the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 South and East made some mistakes here. North made the biggest one though, with that crazy rebid. LOL, it looks like North knew his opponents, and his partner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBengtsson Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 LOL, it looks like North knew his opponents, and his partner. yes, all very crazy. pulse check, temperature check, sanity check. lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted July 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 South and East made some mistakes here. North made the biggest one though, with that crazy rebid. West's X is aggressive without shape - the double says "I would like to bid but don't know what", but the question is whether you want to bid at all. The chance partner has a heart stop is small, plus partner was allowed to bid over 3♥ with extras. On the other hand all of West's 11 points are working on offense. I would have passed, trusting that I have already shown my values. In conclusion, all four players seem to have messed up. Quite the board. I don't understand West's "I would like to bid something but don't know what" double, West has denied both spades, and diamond support.Isn't the double here more of a value showing bid, DSIP, or leave it in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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