Jinksy Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 [hv=pc=n&s=sajh843dkt9753ca4&n=sqt874hkt5d2ckq86&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=1dp1sp2dp2h(Described%20as%20'forcing%20to%203N')p3dp3nppp]266|200[/hv] I thought this was basically universally played as F1 (apart from a handful of dinosaurs who still play NF) - GF seems almost unplayable. Judging by this hand even the robot seems confused - do they really think this is a full GF rather than, say a 2N rebid? (which already seems optimistic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 Fred once said that this sequence should be GF - the reasoning is similar to why FSF should be GF. But yes, it is not everybody's choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 Fred once said that this sequence should be GF - the reasoning is similar to why FSF should be GF. Does this imply that what GiB plays is what Fred preferred it to play, at the time?That would be no surprise or scandal, just curious to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 Does this imply that what GiB plays is what Fred preferred it to play, at the time?That would be no surprise or scandal, just curious to know. I would assume that this is the way GIB was programmed when BBO bought it. From what I have read in these forums, GIB was not designed to make quick, simple (bidding or play) changes, not that changing 2♥ to game forcing from whatever meaning it might have had is necessarily easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 Does this imply that what GiB plays is what Fred preferred it to play, at the time?That would be no surprise or scandal, just curious to know.No it doesn't imply that, GIBerish is probably not Fred's favourite system anyway. It's possible that GIB always played that way. I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted June 14, 2021 Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 I would assume that this is the way GIB was programmed when BBO bought it. From what I have read in these forums, GIB was not designed to make quick, simple (bidding or play) changes, not that changing 2♥ to game forcing from whatever meaning it might have had is necessarily easy.I remember reading that the original program by Ginsberg was significantly configurable, and it seems rather unlikely to me that the current set of agreements was the default. Presumably somebody configured (or hacked) it to play this way, my curiosity is just who and whether it was already playing this way when BBO acquired it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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